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Okay let me explain something about crime and Detroit because while I often lurk and shake my head at the generalizations, today I feel like talking.
Of the 350-400 homicides a year 60-70% of them are directly and indirectly related to the drug trade. 15-20% are because of domestic dispute and personal conflicts, and the rest are random crime.
The Detroit Police in 2007 stated that 80% of all homicides have a narcotics catalyst but that may be way to optimistic and people have gotten a lot pettier and hungrier since then.
Now I know that 60-80% of roughly 400 people is a lot of murders to be attributed to one source, but frankly there are that many people who hustle here. This is not a city full of petty Chicago or LA gang type issues, this a hustlas city. And 90% of the time if you dont get in the way of another mans hustle (i.e. dont sell or buy drugs), you'll be just fine.
Now property crime, assaults, robberies, and general hood nonsens, yes those are a big issues. And frankly these are the crimes that will affect all residents at some point and will be the reason you will want to move out, amongst other things.
And for the first half of 2010 homicides and shootings are down 50% from 2009. I will find the Detroit News article with the details another time but since the latest leadership change here the police have been very aggeresive responding to homicides and patrolling high crime areas. I think the clearance rate on murder cases rose from an appaling 33% to around the national average of 67% all without a crime lab and a severly understaffed police department.
The point I guess is, get the facts first or at least have some idea what you are talking about before just blurting out the first thing that comes to your mind. Yes Detroit is a crime infested hellhole but if you are from Kansas or Rochester, NY honestly what position are you in to make that judgement if you literally know nothing about what goes on here?
Carry on
can you how me where i can look up detroits crime stats, because its always hard to find them.
Detroit Police do not release crime stats until the end of year. Periodically they'll give out info to the press to tout a drop or spin a rise in crime but its hard to find crime stats on a regular basis.
Detroit Police do not release crime stats until the end of year. Periodically they'll give out info to the press to tout a drop or spin a rise in crime but its hard to find crime stats on a regular basis.
thats strange but thanks anyway. so it looks like detroit is hitting a new low this year. that sounds nice.
Before I researched homicide data of major cities over a 20 yr period I thought for sure that Detroit had the highest average per capita murder rate of major cities followed by St. Louis and Baltimore because of the annual most dangerous cities lists and public perception. What I found out was how the annual most dangerous cities lists made me think that the city that I've called home (New Orleans) since birth being nowhere near as deadly as Detrot was in fact a myth and it's average per capita murder rate over the years wasn't higher than New Orleans, which to my suprise was the highest, it also wasn't higher on average than D.C. It also came as a suprise that due to New Orleans' actual per capta murder rates of 05 and 06 being higher than Detroit's means that it's per capita rate rate hasn't eclipsed both New Orleans and D.C in the same year for any single year over the last 20 yrs. The citizens of Detroit should file class action lawsuits against CQ press as their annual most dangerous cites lists has further damaged that city's image as if it hadn't suffered enough negative press.
Before I researched homicide data of major cities over a 20 yr period I thought for sure that Detroit had the highest average per capita murder rate of major cities followed by St. Louis and Baltimore because of the annual most dangerous cities lists and public perception. What I found out was how the annual most dangerous cities lists made me think that the city that I've called home (New Orleans) since birth being nowhere near as deadly as Detrot was in fact a myth and it's average per capita murder rate over the years wasn't higher than New Orleans, which to my suprise was the highest, it also wasn't higher on average than D.C. It also came as a suprise that due to New Orleans' actual per capta murder rates of 05 and 06 being higher than Detroit's means that it's per capita rate rate hasn't eclipsed both New Orleans and D.C in the same year for any single year over the last 20 yrs. The citizens of Detroit should file class action lawsuits against CQ press as their annual most dangerous cites lists has further damaged that city's image as if it hadn't suffered enough negative press.
Exactly ...ppl werent talking about Baltimore, Detroit like that until 05, 06 when D.C' murder rate fell below 40 per for good and NO was around 37 per at the time...which has sky rocketed since.....so ppl think its been like that the whole time but just recently
As far as homicide rates go in big cities... DC, New Orleans, Detroit, Baltimore, and St. Louis were always near or at the top. It's true that either DC or New Orleans were the ones WAY up there at some point, like over 70/per 100k which is terrible. Really, any city that has a homicide rate of 20/per 100k or more most years is pretty bad. I mean the country average is 5/per 100k...
Exactly ...ppl werent talking about Baltimore, Detroit like that until 05, 06 when D.C' murder rate fell below 40 per for good and NO was around 37 per at the time...which has sky rocketed since.....so ppl think its been like that the whole time but just recently
If D.C. hadn't got a handle on it's murder rate in recent years, and New Orleans' hadn't started rising and rising beginning in 2000, D.C.'s average would be a little higher than that of New Orleans over the period. With all the attention on New Orleans due to Katrina, it wasn't mentioned that the murder rate was so horrific that it's actual rate as of Aug. 31st 2005 of 45 per 100,000 was still higher than any other major city's rate for the entire year. BOJ statistics rate of 29 per in 05 was the rate after 6 months and the 37 per for New Orleans in 06 was from New Orleans' pre- Katrina population. The actual rate that year was anywhere from 70 to 80 per because the population was around 220,000. Then in 07 BOJ statistics listed New Orleans' rate as 95 per when the actual rate was probably more like 72 per because they used the population estimate of 06.
I don't see how so many of you think Miami is such a crime haven when it's really not. It's murder rate has been declining for several years now. The city is going through a massive gentrification hence the huge building boom of condos downtown being filled with young professionals. The demographics of the city are changing. I swear I think too many of you have been watching CSI:Miami or reruns of Miami Vice!
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