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View Poll Results: Which City Do You Prefer?
San Francisco. 264 55.81%
Philadelphia. 158 33.40%
Too close to call. 38 8.03%
I don't like either city. 13 2.75%
Voters: 473. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-04-2009, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Incredibly.


Its also outdated.

Well, we have 947,000 households that earn $100,000 a year, compared to 588,000 in Philly.
Were going to regress here with philly getting short changed on the census designation. I can be in Mercer County NJ within 15 minutes from Philadlephia. Hunterdon Nj in 25 miutes but neither are counted in Phillys stats.Mercer and Hunterdon are 2 odf the wealthiest counties in the country. Reading,AC,Allentown,Dover,Vineland
all within distance and integration deemed census worthy in almost every other cmsa, not for Philly.

 
Old 09-04-2009, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I guess it bears putting back here...Cant find stats for Lower Marion, PA, but I found the other two and some other high income Philly area towns.

Bay Area cities with a Average Household Income of $100,000+
(Plus some other cities for comparisons sake)
Hillsborough, CA $360,640
Atherton, CA $356,954
Scarsdale, NY $321,193
Gladwyne, PA $313,897
Woodside, CA $311,743
Los Altos Hills, CA $300,712
Belvedere, CA $295,702
Winnetka, IL $277,371
Portola Valley, CA $269,024
Paradise Valley, AZ $265,760
Monte Sereno, CA $264,547
Villanova, PA $264,912
Potomac, MD $249,622
Saratoga, CA $239,844
Alpine, NJ $238,861
Kentfield, CA $234,990
Los Altos, CA $233,909
Alamo, CA $230,574
Piedmont, CA $227,887
Tiburon, CA $226,738
Diablo, CA $219,376
Malibu, CA $209,259
Greenwich, CT $197,577
Orinda, CA $193,960
Ross, CA $187,380
Palm Beach, FL $185,641
Wynnewood, PA $183,486
Greenbrae, CA $178,914
Nicasio, CA $176,896
Los Gatos, CA $171,825
Danville, CA $168,672
Menlo Park, CA $167,949
Beverly Hills, CA $167,791
Sunol, CA $165,086
Sausalito, CA $162,253
Mill Valley, CA $161,493
Palo Alto, CA $160,483
Bryn Mawr, PA $159,577
Cupertino, CA $159,380
Moraga, CA $158,113
Lafayette, CA $156,255
Mercer Island, WA $150,973
San Carlos, CA $144,589
Foster City, CA $144,029
Larkspur, CA $135,568
Stinson Beach, CA $134,834
Pleasanton, CA $132,390
Corte Madera, CA $131,427
San Ramon, CA $131,202
Half Moon Bay, CA $129,807
Clayton, CA $128,553
Belmont, CA $123,751
Milpitas, CA $123,177
Burlingame, CA $121,988
Southampton, NY $119,935
St Helena, CA $116,620
San Anselmo, CA $111,882
Mountain View, CA $110,368
Sunnyvale, CA $109,640
Fremont, CA $108,353
San Mateo, CA $106,549
Scotts Valley, CA $106,188
Woodacre, CA $104,318
Redwood City, CA $103,475
Ardmore, PA $103,288
Millbrae, CA $103,166
San Jose, CA $102,499
Aptos, CA $101,818
Campbell, CA $101,533
Livermore, CA $101,094
Dublin, CA $101,006

This is actually where Philadelphia has somewhat of an advantage due to the huge amount of multi-generational wealth there. Its much older than SF and will definitely have very rich suburbs.
 
Old 09-04-2009, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Montclair what is this onboard llc. Do you have a link?
 
Old 09-04-2009, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Were going to regress here with philly getting short changed on the census designation. I can be in Mercer County NJ within 15 minutes from Philadlephia but its not counted in Phillys stats. Reading,AC,Allentown,Dover,Vineland
all within distance and integration deemed census worthy in almost every other cmsa.
Vineland is part of the Philly CSA.

Also, we don't need to regress because the Bay Area has more than the entire State of PA.

Households Earning $100,000+

State of Pennsylvania 847,597
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA 947,936
 
Old 09-04-2009, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Vineland is part of the Philly CSA.

Also, we don't need to regress because the Bay Area has more than the entire State of PA.

Households Earning $100,000+

State of Pennsylvania 847,597
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA 947,936
Central + South Jersey. Delaware?
 
Old 09-04-2009, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Montclair what is this onboard llc. Do you have a link?
Its a paid website that is sort of like Claritas.

I did some digging. Even if you don't have an account with them, so many real estate websites use their data that you can find it for free in many places.
 
Old 09-04-2009, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Now that I think about it, I bet Philly actually has more towns with average household incomes of $100,000+ than the Bay.

That's because we only have about 96 cities total. Im not too familiar with Philly but I am familiar with NY and if its anything like Philly then there are hundreds of little towns and villages.
 
Old 09-04-2009, 06:33 PM
 
Location: The Left Toast
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[b][QUOTE=2e1m5a;10613113] Jeez, make one observation about SF that doesn't glorify it and everyone jumps down your throat. But apparently it's perfectly fine to say things like "Philly is ghetto as hell"..."The CITY of Philadelphia is pound for pound one of the most run down ghettos in America", etc, etc. (I don't feel like going through the whole thread) So hypocritical, you guys take your city way to seriously. And I never compared the Golden Gate bridge to any of Philly's bridges. Of course the GG is more dramatic than what we have in Philly. I just meant that the GG bridge is the most famous bridge in the country, maybe the world while at the same time New York has bridges just as beautiful while most people outside the area wouldn't even know the names of them. I don't get it. Here's a shot of the Ben Franklin Bridge in Philly though in case you've never seen it.

Funny thing is a lot of people just don't know us or come to see us when we're between the Naton's Capitol & The Nation's Largest City..
I went to see the movie shooter with some friends when it first came out & about 7 of 8 people with me had never been to Philly, most had been to either DC or NYC & a few to both & 1 had been to all 3.

While watching the movie they were surprised that we had BRIDGES!!
They were looking at the panoramic scenes that continuosly highlighted the Ben Franklin, Walt Whitman, & Betsy Ross Bridges, the Market St. El & saying "I didn't know you guys had a Subway that rides over the city, that's cool"..
Or man, Philly's a pretty big city huh? It's bigger than I thought. (smile)
Also, "that looks like such & such street in ..... New York"!!
&" I saw houses & streets like those on The Wire"
"You guy's have water" ?? I said "Yes Two rivers & a few creeks that run right through the city." Also we have the US's largest city park (U mean larger than Central??) " Yes larger than Central with plenty of urban space & miles of woodland space with hiking trails, huge rocks to climb, caves, deer, & other wildlife.. All inside of city limits".....

Yep,yep,yup, & in the summer time you can frequent any of our many neighborhood square parks take a dip in any of our many of our cement ponds..... (yuk,yuk,yuk,)
Oh well, I guess that's the way it is in Maberry ya'll.

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Old 09-04-2009, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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If were comparing people, it's not even close. The SF Bay Area is by far the most progressive and socially conscious region in the US if not the world.

It's the people that make it this way.
I agree they i.e. S.F. are socially more progressive. Than many U.S. cities...but the world...no way...look at the European Union and their equal marriage laws.
 
Old 09-04-2009, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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If were comparing people, it's not even close. The SF Bay Area is by far the most progressive and socially conscious region in the US if not the world.
wow. that's a bold statememt
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