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your confusing me or are you even listening to what im typing what do you mean by cbd if your meaning charlottes stadium for the cbd you typed then i said at the top that however i think charlotte has a bigger stadium.atlanta does seem to have a quite bigger downtown skyline than charlotte.I live in georgia but in columbus georgia just a hour south of atlanta so i travel to atlanta very often.And i also travel to charlotte as well.And another thing does charlotte have a marta train system that takes you around charlotte like atlanta does.not trying to start any trouble i just want to know thats all.
Sorry for the confusion. I was just basically saying that Charlotte's CBD is not that small and I listed some attractions in the CBD in addition to the office space one poster has already listed. We do not have something like Marta in our city. MARTA is heavy rail but we do have light rail that goes through parts of the city and is in the process of expanding. I appreciate your civilty.
Where did you get Charlotte's office space from? I'm pretty sure it's closer to 17 million square feet of office space. But I'm not sure, so don't quote me on that. But I know Charlotte still has less office space than Atlanta. My comment was more directed at the physical size of DT ATL vs Uptown Charlotte. I'm not sure how you could look that up.
Yeah, downtown Atlanta and uptown Charlotte are pretty close now in terms of office space, thanks to Duke Energy Center, NASCAR Plaza, 440 S. Church, etc. Of course, citywide it isn't even a competition but the CBDs are pretty comparable when it comes to office space.
your confusing me or are you even listening to what im typing what do you mean by cbd if your meaning charlottes stadium for the cbd you typed then i said at the top that however i think charlotte has a bigger stadium.atlanta does seem to have a quite bigger downtown skyline than charlotte.I live in georgia but in columbus georgia just a hour south of atlanta so i travel to atlanta very often.And i also travel to charlotte as well.And another thing does charlotte have a marta train system that takes you around charlotte like atlanta does.not trying to start any trouble i just want to know thats all.
They Have Light rail the only stadium you can get to on it is the Arena. There in there first phase of the system, so I would give them a couple of more years before it fills in the Gap. Marta system runs underground through downtown and midtown its holds alot of people and it moves people at a faster rate. I think Atlanta and Charlotte Downtown Are about the same. Atlanta downtown is more dense Taller , more buildings, and more Attractions in the Downtown area.
Where did you get Charlotte's office space from? I'm pretty sure it's closer to 17 million square feet of office space. But I'm not sure, so don't quote me on that. But I know Charlotte still has less office space than Atlanta. My comment was more directed at the physical size of DT ATL vs Uptown Charlotte. I'm not sure how you could look that up.
Not sure what source BlackOut used, but I always rely on Colliers for my info. The numbers are pretty far off from those posted earlier.
Atlanta CBD - 25,466,693
Charlotte CBD 18,681,469
And bgNCATL, re: your earlier question about the Perimeter Center area, they come in at 28,266,783.
Oh, and just for geeky fun, the metro totals:
Atlanta - 199,456,022
Charlotte - 73,522,021
For some odd reason, you can't link to the Charlotte data from Collier's homepage. The full market report can be found here, for those interested in more detail: http://www.colliers.com/Content/Repositories/Base/Markets/Charlotte/English/Market_Report/PDFs/Q309OFF_CHR.pdf (broken link)
Oh, and just for geeky fun, the metro totals:
Atlanta - 199,456,022
Charlotte - 73,522,021
For some odd reason, you can't link to the Charlotte data from Collier's homepage. The full market report can be found here, for those interested in more detail: http://www.colliers.com/Content/Repositories/Base/Markets/Charlotte/English/Market_Report/PDFs/Q309OFF_CHR.pdf (broken link)
I'm glad you found the link, because I went to the Colliers site and couldn't find any of the Charlotte reports. But I remember having cited those statistics before. Duke Energy Center, 1 Bank of America Center, NASCAR Plaza, and 440 S. Church should have us over the 20M sq ft mark.
I'm glad you found the link, because I went to the Colliers site and couldn't find any of the Charlotte reports. But I remember having cited those statistics before. Duke Energy Center, 1 Bank of America Center, NASCAR Plaza, and 440 S. Church should have us over the 20M sq ft mark.
I'm sure that will be the case. These reports were from 4th quarter of '09.
Strange about that link, but I really do trust Colliers figures.
What we also need to remember is that Govt. space isn't included, which both places have quite a bit of.
I'm sure that will be the case. These reports were from 4th quarter of '09.
Strange about that link, but I really do trust Colliers figures.
What we also need to remember is that Govt. space isn't included, which both places have quite a bit of.
Yeah, I use Colliers as my source as well. Too bad they aren't in every market because there are some cities I'd love to see figures for which they don't provide.
And if you include government space, that would only push Atlanta even further ahead with state government and a nice chunk of federal government space.
Yeah, I use Colliers as my source as well. Too bad they aren't in every market because there are some cities I'd love to see figures for which they don't provide.
And if you include government space, that would only push Atlanta even further ahead with state government and a nice chunk of federal government space.
Absolutely. The City/County complex in Uptown is pretty impressive too, though (and perhaps more attractive overall).
The Government District in Downtown Atlanta has a very cool proposal in the works called The Green Line that would tie the whole area together with some much needed cohesion. It's centered on the proposed Multimodal Station and the railroad gulch that is such a division right now.
Oh, and just for geeky fun, the metro totals:
Atlanta - 199,456,022
Charlotte - 73,522,021
For some odd reason, you can't link to the Charlotte data from Collier's homepage. The full market report can be found here, for those interested in more detail: http://www.colliers.com/Content/Repositories/Base/Markets/Charlotte/English/Market_Report/PDFs/Q309OFF_CHR.pdf (broken link)
Thanks for the info. I thought I was going crazy for a second there. The metro office space you included is quite hillarious. I think of that 73+, 40+ is in Charlotte. LOL. Charlotte pretty much dominates the MSA. Sort of like the Chicago effect.
Thanks for the info. I thought I was going crazy for a second there. The metro office space you included is quite hillarious. I think of that 73+, 40+ is in Charlotte. LOL. Charlotte pretty much dominates the MSA. Sort of like the Chicago effect.
You're welcome!
The link to the Charlotte report breaks everything down by sub-markets, it's pretty interesting. The only surprise I found was that Southpark has much less space than I thought it did, at a little over 5 million. It looks like much more than that when in the area - to me anyway! I also had no idea how much space was around the Airport.
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