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The Atlanta Metro is 28 small counties - Georgia has very small counties comparatively...and the area isn't as large as many other cities (Houston, Dallas, etc).
Savannah is not nearly as large as Augusta and Columbus...so if you're trying to count Savannah as one of Georgia's main cities, you would need to count Augusta and Columbus as they are larger. So Georgia is a four-city state.
Oh yeah, forgot about Augusta. I didn't even know there was a Columbus in GA . I hear about Savannah a lot because of the port and history and what not.
Oh yeah, forgot about Augusta. I didn't even know there was a Columbus in GA . I hear about Savannah a lot because of the port and history and what not.
Yeah, Savannah is more well-known than any of Georgia's other cities...there is also Macon and Athens, which are just a hair smaller than Savannah.
I see what you're saying, but I'm just going by the original question. If for instance he said "which Southern state is the king of cities?" or something like that. Texas has huge cities and a good number of them, but the rural areas are also huge. So, I'm gonna turn to a reliable urbanization measure that I'm surprised no one else has brought up yet--population density.
Here's how the ones in the running stack up relative to the 50 states (persons/sq.mi.):
[8. Florida (right behind New York)] 338.4
14. Virginia 194.8
15. North Carolina 186.0
18. Georgia 164.8 28. Texas 91.3
I was actually surprised to see Texas that low. So, I would have to answer no to your question. As a reminder, the reason I chose NC over VA is because it's cities are more evenly distributed throughout the state, there's significantly more of them, and the population densities are practically the same, and I explained why I "disqualified" FL earlier. I might say Texas beats out Georgia though, since it's basically a two-city state (Atlanta and Savannah), and that 28-county (!) Metro Area in ATL seems exagerrated to me.
There has been a lot of talk about population density earlier on with regards to the entire state. Even though Texas has a low population density it is a very urban state, two examples of population density which I think show a need for more than one measurement is Alabama and South Carolina. South Carolina's population density is higher than Texas and Alabama's essentially ties with Texas.
Having a more uniform density across the state is definitely a good argument to be made, lots of the Texas counties in west Texas are losing a lot of people while the metros are growing rapidly which is skewing the density in Texas even more, however there is a much smaller rural population in Texas as a percentage of the entire state compared to other southern states.
Rural Population
Texas 17.5%
Alabama 44.6%
Georgia 28.4%
North Carolina 39.8%
Virginia 27% Source
I guess we are taking two separate viewpoints, neither of which is wrong. Obviously if Texas were to slice off the pan handle and give it to Oklahoma then Texas would have a much higher density. I think I'm looking at it more as a person would see it eyes on the ground, what an individual would wake up and see every day in a more highly dense compact area like Houston versus Charlotte.
This has seemed like a long message which is just rambling. I guess it ultimately comes down to something much more complicated than we can discern here.
The pollster should have just included New Jersey that way we could all be in total agreement
There has been a lot of talk about population density earlier on with regards to the entire state. Even though Texas has a low population density it is a very urban state, two examples of population density which I think show a need for more than one measurement is Alabama and South Carolina. South Carolina's population density is higher than Texas and Alabama's essentially ties with Texas.
Having a more uniform density across the state is definitely a good argument to be made, lots of the Texas counties in west Texas are losing a lot of people while the metros are growing rapidly which is skewing the density in Texas even more, however there is a much smaller rural population in Texas as a percentage of the entire state compared to other southern states.
Rural Population
Texas 17.5%
Alabama 44.6%
Georgia 28.4%
North Carolina 39.8%
Virginia 27% Source
I guess we are taking two separate viewpoints, neither of which is wrong. Obviously if Texas were to slice off the pan handle and give it to Oklahoma then Texas would have a much higher density. I think I'm looking at it more as a person would see it eyes on the ground, what an individual would wake up and see every day in a more highly dense compact area like Houston versus Charlotte.
This has seemed like a long message which is just rambling. I guess it ultimately comes down to something much more complicated than we can discern here.
The pollster should have just included New Jersey that way we could all be in total agreement
Yeah, I see your point. It all depends on the definition of "urban" and POV. haha NJ there definitey wouldn''t be any question about NJ.
There has been a lot of talk about population density earlier on with regards to the entire state. Even though Texas has a low population density it is a very urban state, two examples of population density which I think show a need for more than one measurement is Alabama and South Carolina. South Carolina's population density is higher than Texas and Alabama's essentially ties with Texas.
Having a more uniform density across the state is definitely a good argument to be made, lots of the Texas counties in west Texas are losing a lot of people while the metros are growing rapidly which is skewing the density in Texas even more, however there is a much smaller rural population in Texas as a percentage of the entire state compared to other southern states.
Rural Population
Texas 17.5%
Alabama 44.6%
Georgia 28.4%
North Carolina 39.8%
Virginia 27% Source
I guess we are taking two separate viewpoints, neither of which is wrong. Obviously if Texas were to slice off the pan handle and give it to Oklahoma then Texas would have a much higher density. I think I'm looking at it more as a person would see it eyes on the ground, what an individual would wake up and see every day in a more highly dense compact area like Houston versus Charlotte.
This has seemed like a long message which is just rambling. I guess it ultimately comes down to something much more complicated than we can discern here.
The pollster should have just included New Jersey that way we could all be in total agreement
Not to complain, but the information in your source is 10 years old. I know that Georgia's population has grown by 1 million since then, and most of that growth has been in the Atlanta area. So those numbers have changed dramatically in 10 years.
There has been a lot of talk about population density earlier on with regards to the entire state. Even though Texas has a low population density it is a very urban state, two examples of population density which I think show a need for more than one measurement is Alabama and South Carolina. South Carolina's population density is higher than Texas and Alabama's essentially ties with Texas.
Having a more uniform density across the state is definitely a good argument to be made, lots of the Texas counties in west Texas are losing a lot of people while the metros are growing rapidly which is skewing the density in Texas even more, however there is a much smaller rural population in Texas as a percentage of the entire state compared to other southern states.
Rural Population
Texas 17.5%
Alabama 44.6%
Georgia 28.4%
North Carolina 39.8%
Virginia 27% Source
I guess we are taking two separate viewpoints, neither of which is wrong. Obviously if Texas were to slice off the pan handle and give it to Oklahoma then Texas would have a much higher density. I think I'm looking at it more as a person would see it eyes on the ground, what an individual would wake up and see every day in a more highly dense compact area like Houston versus Charlotte.
This has seemed like a long message which is just rambling. I guess it ultimately comes down to something much more complicated than we can discern here.
The pollster should have just included New Jersey that way we could all be in total agreement
I see New York is up there. Not surprising considering MOST of upstate NY is nothing but farms and open land.
Not to complain, but the information in your source is 10 years old. I know that Georgia's population has grown by 1 million since then, and most of that growth has been in the Atlanta area. So those numbers have changed dramatically in 10 years.
I knew it was based on the 2000 census data but it is the most recent info I could find using the official data. There's no doubt that Georgia, Virginia and Texas have become more urban over the past decade.
I knew it was based on the 2000 census data but it is the most recent info I could find using the official data. There's no doubt that Georgia, Virginia and Texas have become more urban over the past decade.
2010 should bring lots of new discussion information for city-data.
Florida is the winner and Texas is a also ran....and this is how the cities are stacking up.......
Miami...Fort Lauderdale Tampa .....St. Petersburg Orlando.... Jacksonville.... At one point in time all six of these cities were Major League Sports Cities....
Houston Dallas...Fort Worth San Antonio.... Austin..... Only three Major League Sports Cities....
Being a Major League Sports City Is Not The Cure All For What It's Takes To Be A Major American City...But It's One Of The Many Determining Factors Of Many Factors......
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. I hear about Savannah a lot because of the port and history and what not.
Florida Is The Winner.......................
