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The thing that irritates me with this argument is this. If you want to compare city to city that's fine, or if you prefer MSA to MSA that's fine too. But you can't just cut part of one MSA off cause it has a 2 large cities in its metro. It's all or none, point blank. For ease of argument's sake why does everyone not just assume when were talking Dallas we mean Dallas/Fort Worth/Arlington/Plano/Richardson/Denton metro. It's not like people are on here sayin "Well, if Atlanta didn't have all those unincorporated towns it wouldn't be as big." Well that's pretty obvious. And choosing not to believe they're one metro is just ignorant.
I agree it's not fair. New York has freekin Newark and 3 other states, LA has San Bernardino, what the HECK!! Dallas is just getting outed by itself. THAT'S BULL!!! How can Baltimore and DC be one area, but people have problems with Dallas-FT.Worth.
"Real Housewives of Atlanta" is HARDLY representative of the city of Atlanta itself. One radio DJ here jokingly refers to it as "Real Housewives Of Duluth" Most of the cast members on the show live in suburban Duluth or Johns Creek. No respectable "Buckhead Betty" or "Donna Dunwoody" in their rght mind would go on that show.
All these crazy stereotypes of Atlanta. SMH. Dallas is often stereotyped as being superficial, materialistic, home of the "30K millionaire", overly conservative, and racist. Of course, I know these stereotypes are not true.
I agree, Dallas is stereotyped like that. I don't know why my fellow Texans are stereotyping ATL like this.
Ok Dallas-FT.Worth is LARGER then ATL/Sandy Springs/Marietta, and Houston/Sugarland/Baytown.
Dallas-FT.Worth are both major cities
Atlanta major city Sandy springs and Marrietta suburbs of Atlanta
Houston major city Sugarland and Baytown are suburbs of Houston
Dallas FT Worth is only larger because there are two major cities. If Houston or Atlanta had help in a conurbation with a city that contribute as much as Fort Worth, they're regions would be more populated than DFW. Which means Houston and Atlanta as cities grow larger Metro populations. Dallas is only part responsible for growing 6.3 million
1. You misunderstood what I meant when I say town. Dallas is seen as the BIG CITY in the region. Not only do outsiders consider it the Big City of the Metroplex, but so do other Texans. Not Dallas fault nor is it Fort Worth fault. The same city-town concept is used in the Bay Area as well. San Francisco is known as the city and Oakland is known as the town. Bay Area folks will tell you this.
2. It is the secondary city of the Metroplex. Dallas is the primary city. It's by far the largest city with the largest transportation network with the largest GDP. It also has the largest economy in the region and has more fortune 500 companies as well. Calling Fort Worth the secondary city in the region is no diss to Fort Worth. But it simply is second to Fort Worth in just about everything to Dallas in the region. When people fly to DFW, they just simply say they are flying to Dallas. It's the most known city in the region. Not Dallas fault that Fort Worth does not market it's name.
3. To say Dallas is not booming shows that you are disregarding the amount of development ongoing in Uptown, Downtown, various neighborhoods around new DART stations, and more. Fort Worth's growing population, while great, is mostly suburban growth while Dallas is way more urban than Fort Worth and becoming more dense than Fort Worth. Fort Worth is doing what Dallas did 40 years ago and Fort Worth will slow down once they run out of room which is inevitable.
I'm not dissing Fort Worth at all. I have no reason to. But just like Minneapolis, San Francisco, Seattle, and Miami, Dallas is seen as the primary and by far the most important and popular city of the region and this is why you will here it being called Metro Dallas. Again, that's not Dallas fault. Blame your own city for putting it's name out there.
EXACTLY!!! Dallas is the PRIMARY city. Just like Miami is the PRIMARY city of SoFLA, just like LA is the primary city of the LA-San Bernardino-Riverside-OC metro, just like SF is the PRIMARY city of the Bay Area.
Dallas-FT.Worth are both major cities
Atlanta major city Sandy springs and Marrietta suburbs of Atlanta
Houston major city Sugarland and Baytown are suburbs of Houston
Dallas FT Worth is only larger because there are two major cities. If Houston or Atlanta had help in a conurbation with a city that contribute as much as Fort Worth, they're regions would be more populated than DFW. Which means Houston and Atlanta as cities grow larger Metro populations. Dallas is only part responsible for growing 6.3 million
That's like saying, "If Omaha Nebraska had MORE buildings, and TALLER buildings it would have a better skyline then NYC, therefor, Omaha has a better skyline then NYC, because it's not fair". It IS what it IS, Dallas just so happens to have Fort Worth nearby, THEREFORE it will be bigger then ATL and Houston. Dallas is the MORE well-known city in the metro, that's why people OUTSIDE of Texas call it Dallas metro, even though it's Dallas-Ft.Worth.
I agree it's not fair. New York has freekin Newark and 3 other states, LA has San Bernardino, what the HECK!! Dallas is just getting outed by itself. THAT'S BULL!!! How can Baltimore and DC be one area, but people have problems with Dallas-FT.Worth.
New York is over 5 time as large as Newark, San Bernardino is part the inland empire not LA MSA. Baltimore and DC are not part of the same MSA either but the same CSA. The only example you can bring up that's even close is the bay but no SF don't get all the credit either.
Dallas-FT.Worth are both major cities
Atlanta major city Sandy springs and Marrietta suburbs of Atlanta
Houston major city Sugarland and Baytown are suburbs of Houston
Dallas FT Worth is only larger because there are two major cities. If Houston or Atlanta had help in a conurbation with a city that contribute as much as Fort Worth, they're regions would be more populated than DFW. Which means Houston and Atlanta as cities grow larger Metro populations. Dallas is only part responsible for growing 6.3 million
I understand what you're trying to say. Atlanta and Houston are solely responsible for their metro areas, whereas Dallas owes some of the growth of the Metroplex to Ft. Worth. Still, nobody can say that without Ft. Worth things wouldn't have been different.
It doesn't matter when you get down to the details of it. The MSA is the MSA and just that. Nobody can accurately say what portion of the 6.3 million belong to who. Just like some of the 5 million may rarely step foot in Atlanta.
Dallas-FT.Worth are both major cities
Atlanta major city Sandy springs and Marrietta suburbs of Atlanta
Houston major city Sugarland and Baytown are suburbs of Houston
Dallas FT Worth is only larger because there are two major cities. If Houston or Atlanta had help in a conurbation with a city that contribute as much as Fort Worth, they're regions would be more populated than DFW. Which means Houston and Atlanta as cities grow larger Metro populations. Dallas is only part responsible for growing 6.3 million
Take Dekalb County and make it a city. You'll have Fort Worth.( Fort Worth is around the same size as Dekalb County and have a similar population).
New York is over 5 time as large as Newark, San Bernardino is part the inland empire not LA MSA. Baltimore and DC are not part of the same MSA either but the same CSA. The only example you can bring up that's even close is the bay but no SF don't get all the credit either.
But SF is viewed as the PRIMARY city. And there are MILLIONS of people living outside of NYC city-limits, WITHIN the NYC metro. LA also has LONG BEACH, which is it's OWN separate city with a population of 500,000. Is it not the same as Dallas-Ft.Worth?
Dallas has the LARGEST metro area in th south, and 4th largest in the US. PERIOD!!! Ft Worth is too dang CLOSE to Dallas to NOT be included, and Dallas is TOO big to NOT be considered the PRIMARY city.
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