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There not a such thing as a Black mecca or Latin Mecca. The only people that hype that nonsense tend to be African Americans. I don't here Hispanics raving at fact that all large cities in the sunbelt they tend to be the largest minority or the majority for that matter. We (black) make up 13.5% percent of the population. Seriously people should chill out with this Mecca crap.
What you cannot deny is that Atlanta is a center of African American culture and history and Miami is a center of Latino culture. Whether or not you want to apply the "mecca" title to these cities is up to you, but that's what it means so let's not quibble about semantics here. And I thought I said I hoped we could avoid going down this route for the umpteenth time on here. Let's not derail a legitimate discussion with something so trivial. You know what I'm getting at as far as my overall point is concerned (wider cultural influences Atlanta and Miami have on their respective surrounding areas, particularly Blacks in the Deep South and Latinos in the Carribbean), so just chill.
i was about to state the same in regards to New Orleans.I would give New Orleans having almost as much influence as Atlanta.My friends from overseas know about Mardi Gras and Katrina.
New Orleans has a huge cultural influence that is unique to the South. However, it has some issues and problems economially that, IMO, disqualify it from competing as one of the top 5 cities in the South. If we eliminate DC due to a "hung jury," New Orleans still does not outshine Charlotte, Orlando, Tampa, Nashville, Raleigh, etc. This is not to disagree with New Orleans as a city and metro, because it is truly a shining gem in the South, but I would not call it an undeniable powerhouse.
New Orleans has a huge cultural influence that is unique to the South. However, it has some issues and problems economially that, IMO, disqualify it from competing as one of the top 5 cities in the South. If we eliminate DC due to a "hung jury," New Orleans still does not outshine Charlotte, Orlando, Tampa, Nashville, Raleigh, etc. This is not to disagree with New Orleans as a city and metro, because it is truly a shining gem in the South, but I would not call it an undeniable powerhouse.
Well Im taking about cultural influence.Economically its minimal.
Well Im taking about cultural influence.Economically its minimal.
I see and I figured that was your angle. I think it is sad. It truly is a great city, from what I hear, I think it deserves to be in the top 5 in the Southern region. Perhaps on par with Miami and Atlanta. In the South we would then have heavy influences in Latin American/Caribbean, African-American, and French-Creole/Cajun, as top cities. I guess the South is pretty diverse after all. LOL!
I know that recently, Florida surpassed New York in terms of numbers of transplants into Georgia if the emigration patterns are being looked at. But there are tons of people here from other Mid-Atlantic states as well. I was at a social event here in Atlanta, and they started playing Go-Go music, which is not THAT well known outside of the DC area...But there are a LOT of DC area transplants down here. I've also met quite a few Michigan transplants here as well.
What about the Twin Cities influence on the Upper Midwest? No doubt that Chicago dominates much of the Midwest, but I'm referring to MN, Eastern ND & SD, Northern Iowa, Northern Wisconsin, etc.
I would be interested in knowing this as well. Since I am not from the Mid-West I tend to think it is dominted by Chicago with various smaller-larger metros having niche areas. Kind of like how New York has of the Northeast. You have Boston-New England, Phily-Deleware Valley, Pittsburgh-Appalacia Northeast?, etc.
What you cannot deny is that Atlanta is a center of African American culture and history and Miami is a center of Latino culture. Whether or not you want to apply the "mecca" title to these cities is up to you, but that's what it means so let's not quibble about semantics here. And I thought I said I hoped we could avoid going down this route for the umpteenth time on here. Let's not derail a legitimate discussion with something so trivial. You know what I'm getting at as far as my overall point is concerned (wider cultural influences Atlanta and Miami have on their respective surrounding areas, particularly Blacks in the Deep South and Latinos in the Carribbean), so just chill.
Don't even waste your time trying to reason with a Texan. They always get like this when they feel others don't view them as the center of the universe the way they do.
Look how they ruined the Dallas vs Atlanta thread because they got mad about peoplereferring to Atlanta as a "Black Mecca". I couldn't believe how the Atlanta posters took the bait.
Well Im taking about cultural influence.Economically its minimal.
Yes and No. New Orleans supplies most of the goods to the midwest and mississippi river valley and it's home to the 1st and 8th largest seaports. Plus, where do you all think most of the oil that Houston gets the credit for comes from? The companies moved to Houston, but most of the oil infrastructure stayed here. Many of the oil companies have there white collar in Houston, but the production aspect and blue collar are still here.
We're no longer a Dal/Hou/Atl, but we are more important than we get credit for. I will add that the future is looking increasingly good for us as well.
Look how they ruined the Dallas vs Atlanta thread because they got mad about peoplereferring to Atlanta as a "Black Mecca". I couldn't believe how the Atlanta posters took the bait.
Even some Atlanteans dont like Atlanta being referred to as a "Black Mecca". So don't blame the Texans. Can't believe I took this bait, but, oh well.
I see and I figured that was your angle. I think it is sad. It truly is a great city, from what I hear, I think it deserves to be in the top 5 in the Southern region. Perhaps on par with Miami and Atlanta. In the South we would then have heavy influences in Latin American/Caribbean, African-American, and French-Creole/Cajun, as top cities. I guess the South is pretty diverse after all. LOL!
Well, New Orleans is doing some good things right now. They just elected a new mayor (LA Lt. Gov. Mitch Landrieu) and their school system is becoming a national model on some levels after being revamped. Venture capitalists and entrepreneurs are taking a chance on the city. The city still has its issues for sure, but there's some hope on the horizon in the Big Easy.
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