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Old 02-09-2010, 02:30 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I never knew Chicago and New Jersey was considered a tourist destination....
Well now you know.
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Old 02-09-2010, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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Using the passenger data posted a few pages back, only New York, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles have more international passenger traffic than Atlanta. We beat out San Francisco, Houston, Boston, DC, Philly, and Dallas. Of course, those of us in the real world would see that as meaning that Atlanta is only one of several international connected, cosmopolitan cities in America.

But keep on looking down on Atlanta/the South. Your opinion of us is rather irrelevant, but if it makes it feel better, I thus bow down to your New Jerseyan superiority
What we need here is some O/D numbers or Orginating Destination numbers. I will ask some of my airline friends to see if they can look some up. I am almost sure Houston, San Fran and DC will have more people actually staying in the city then ATL. ATL is one of the largest destinations in the US there is no doubt about that it is a famous city with some huge companies I would put it as one of the US comopolitan cities but only after: NYC,LA,MIA,BOS,SFO,DC,CHI,HOU,PHL.



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True, but my post that you responded to is itself a response to someone who compared NJ to Atlanta, so my point remains that NJ is more cosompolitan and attracted more international final destination passengers than Atlanta. Yes, we have a huge Continental Hub, which happens to be the best hub of any airline anywhere in the entire nation, but Atlanta has that (awful) Delta hub, not to mention AirTran, and it is clear that Atlanta's function as an airport is MOSTLY as a hub and barely as a destination. I mean, let's face it - while many do go to Atlanta for business or to visit friends/family, it's far from being a hot tourist or business destination, especially compared to NY/NJ, California, Chicago, Florida, etc.
New Jersey its self NO. New Jersey because it is close to New York City YES.

And that awful Delta hub is just about the most sucessful hub in the history of airline travel and also the largest ever I dont connect much and have not connected in ATL for years so I cant comment on how it is as a daily passenger. Yes Atlanta main function is a hub but so is EWR,ORD,IAD,MIA,DFW,IAH most large airports besides for JFK and LAX main function is a hub at least in passenger numbers.

As for best hub in the US my vote goes for Delta in Detroit very easy and very nice! As for making money for an airline AA in MIA.
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Old 02-09-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I never knew Chicago and New Jersey was considered a tourist destination....
What are you talking about? Chicago had between 45 and 49 million visitors to the city last year, second only to New York City.
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Old 02-09-2010, 04:31 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What we need here is some O/D numbers or Orginating Destination numbers. I will ask some of my airline friends to see if they can look some up. I am almost sure Houston, San Fran and DC will have more people actually staying in the city then ATL. ATL is one of the largest destinations in the US there is no doubt about that it is a famous city with some huge companies I would put it as one of the US comopolitan cities but only after: NYC,LA,MIA,BOS,SFO,DC,CHI,HOU,PHL.




New Jersey its self NO. New Jersey because it is close to New York City YES.

And that awful Delta hub is just about the most sucessful hub in the history of airline travel and also the largest ever I dont connect much and have not connected in ATL for years so I cant comment on how it is as a daily passenger. Yes Atlanta main function is a hub but so is EWR,ORD,IAD,MIA,DFW,IAH most large airports besides for JFK and LAX main function is a hub at least in passenger numbers.

As for best hub in the US my vote goes for Delta in Detroit very easy and very nice! As for making money for an airline AA in MIA.
EWR is a destination airport almost as much as JFK is, it's not primarily a hub like Atlanta. Atlanta is an OK airport for connecting, a little big so if your connection is in a different terminal and on an end it can take a while. It's a nice airport, one of the better ones, but not one of the best or one of my favorites. But no doubt more people step off a plane in Newark and then leave the terminal rather than connect, even if it is to go to NYC. They don't "connect" to NYC in Newark - their destination is Newark, even if they head right into NYC.
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Old 02-09-2010, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Spain
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What are you talking about? Chicago had between 45 and 49 million visitors to the city last year, second only to New York City.
What is the source for this information?
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Old 02-09-2010, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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What is the source for this information?
30 Most Visited Cities

Apparently; ATL is more of a tourist destination than Bergen thought (More than New Jersey).
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Old 02-09-2010, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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What is the source for this information?
This one's old though:

Chicago lured 45M tourists who dropped $11.8B last year | Crain's Chicago Business
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:01 PM
 
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I always thought the same DANG thing. MOST people would be CRAZY to not consider Tokyo an international city, YET most of it's demographic is JAPANESE. Yet cities like Atlanta, aren't diverse enough to be international??
I don't think you understand the premise. tokyo is more international because many foreigners go there on business or for tourism much more than atlanta. it doesn't matter how many foreigners live there. it is world renown.

atlanta acts as a hub for international passengers but it's not a major tourist or business destination as los angeles, chicago, or new york.

it may one day be, who knows but not up to par at the moment.

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No, many of them stop here for business, tourist reasons.
i've never heard of any foreigners say they want to stop in atlanta for any reason and especially tourism. but of course there is international business in atlanta, every city has that to some extent but it just doesn't have a full blown cosmopolitan or international city perception. i think it is because it is so provincial still. the down home southern culture is just naturally contradictory to cosmopolitan or international.

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Old 02-09-2010, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Where does it say that Chicago is second to New York? It's feasible, I just want to see proof because most other sources put Chicago behind L.A./LV/Orlando.
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Old 02-09-2010, 08:05 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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I am actually wondering if ANY of these cities really had so many tourists, including New York and Chicago.

Just one example, are they including suburbanites coming into the city just for a baseball game as a tourist?

Or are they including business travelers and conventions as tourists?
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