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Old 03-04-2013, 04:54 PM
 
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The point is that WASHINGTON and BALTIMORE names are in the title. It is NOT called the Washington CSA nor should it ever be called the Washington CSA. The only reason why there is a CSA because many people that live in Baltimore suburbs (not Baltimore city itself) work in DC and many people, although not nearly as much, that live in DC suburbs work in Baltimore. And DC recently passed Baltimore the past couple years according to estimates. Officially, DC itself has NEVER been bigger than Baltimore and nothing now is official when it comes to city population stats until the next census which will not happen for another 7 years.
The reason it's called the Washington CSA is because is Washington is listed first and by far it's the most important city in the CSA. Do you call the Baltimore MSA the Baltimore-Towson MSA? Most people simply call it the Baltimore MSA.

Also, you need to accept the fact that the city of Baltimore is losing population in a big way. This is why DC is now larger than Baltimore. And by the next census, DC will be MUCH larger than Baltimore!!!
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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The reason it's called the Washington CSA is because is Washington is listed first and by far it's the most important city in the CSA.

There is no such thing as the Washington CSA. The Bay Area is called the San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA. Is San Jose the most important city in the CSA?

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Do you call the Baltimore MSA the Baltimore-Towson MSA? Most people simply call it the Baltimore MSA.
Not even remotely the same thing. Washington and Baltimore share a CSA differently than Atlanta or Chicago does for their respective CSA's. Both Baltimore and Washington by themselves are basically the same size. DC has the economic and financial advantage over Baltimore.

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Also, you need to accept the fact that the city of Baltimore is losing population in a big way. This is why DC is now larger than Baltimore. And by the next census, DC will be MUCH larger than Baltimore
The only fact I will accept is that Baltimore is not a suburb of DC.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:21 PM
 
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There is no such thing as the Washington CSA. The Bay Area is called the San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA. Is San Jose the most important city in the CSA?


Not even remotely the same thing. Washington and Baltimore share a CSA differently than Atlanta or Chicago does for their respective CSA's. Both Baltimore and Washington by themselves are basically the same size. DC has the economic and financial advantage over Baltimore.



The only fact I will accept is that Baltimore is not a suburb of DC.

It's called the Washington CSA!!! The only reason San Jose is listed first is obviously because it's the largest city. I personally believe that San Fran should be listed first.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:32 PM
 
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The reason it's called the Washington CSA is because is Washington is listed first and by far it's the most important city in the CSA. Do you call the Baltimore MSA the Baltimore-Towson MSA? Most people simply call it the Baltimore MSA.

Also, you need to accept the fact that the city of Baltimore is losing population in a big way. This is why DC is now larger than Baltimore. And by the next census, DC will be MUCH larger than Baltimore!!!

What does that have to do with your argument? D.C. is more important than any city...IT'S THE CAPITAL OF THE UNITED STATES. The official name for the D.C. area is Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA. Do you even know what a CSA is?

Your argument falls flat. Just stop.
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:23 PM
 
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What does that have to do with your argument? D.C. is more important than any city...IT'S THE CAPITAL OF THE UNITED STATES. The official name for the D.C. area is Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA. Do you even know what a CSA is?

Your argument falls flat. Just stop.
No, you're argument falls flat. It's quite obvious that YOU don't know what you're talking about!!! DC is obviously the most important city in the country. But that has nothing to do with this topic!!! The reason DC is the most important in the region is because it's the largest employment draw by far, much larger than Baltimore. This is one of the standards that the government uses when they put these CSAs/MSAs together. Don't you understand this? The fact that DC is the capital has absolutely nothing to do with this!! If Baltimore was the top employment draw and the largest city, the area would be called the Baltimore CSA. But because Baltimore is a suburb, it's called the Washington CSA. And when the two MSAs merge at some point in the future it will be called the Washington MSA. How are you going to feel then?
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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No, you're argument falls flat. It's quite obvious that YOU don't know what you're talking about!!! DC is obviously the most important city in the country. But that has nothing to do with this topic!!! The reason DC is the most important in the region is because it's the largest employment draw by far, much larger than Baltimore. This is one of the standards that the government uses when they put these CSAs/MSAs together. Don't you understand this? The fact that DC is the capital has absolutely nothing to do with this!! If Baltimore was the top employment draw and the largest city, the area would be called the Baltimore CSA. But because Baltimore is a suburb, it's called the Washington CSA. And when the two MSAs merge at some point in the future it will be called the Washington MSA. How are you going to feel then?
Probably suicidal. Washington continues to growth in size and importance while cHARM city continues to shrink in both.
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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It's called the Washington CSA.
No. It's not.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:34 PM
 
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No, you're argument falls flat. It's quite obvious that YOU don't know what you're talking about!!! DC is obviously the most important city in the country. But that has nothing to do with this topic!!! The reason DC is the most important in the region is because it's the largest employment draw by far, much larger than Baltimore. This is one of the standards that the government uses when they put these CSAs/MSAs together. Don't you understand this? The fact that DC is the capital has absolutely nothing to do with this!! If Baltimore was the top employment draw and the largest city, the area would be called the Baltimore CSA. But because Baltimore is a suburb, it's called the Washington CSA. And when the two MSAs merge at some point in the future it will be called the Washington MSA. How are you going to feel then?
I see you still don't know what a CSA is. Apparently my comment about D.C. being the capital went over your head as it wasn't the main point.

The actual title of the CSA is Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia. Now you are claiming because of which city is listed first, that makes it more important? When two MSA merges, it becomes a CSA, not a MSA. There are several CSA already established as one poster mentioned San-Jose-San Francisco-Oakland.

If Baltimore is a suburb of D.C. then so is Towson. Now that does not make any sense, does it? Baltimore is much of a major city as D.C. is. It is the largest city in the state of Maryland. It is located at its spot for a reason. It has a port. Just because its losing population and its right down the road from D.C. doesn't make it a suburb.

Baltimore was incorporated as a city before government moved into D.C. Baltimore was a port city with its own railroads connecting to points west. Today, Baltimore has its own major television affiliation, its own newspaper, own sports teams, own airport, and its own public transportation. It does not uses Metro like other areas around D.C.

If you were to create a thread in both the Baltimore and D.C. forum, most of the posters will disagree with you from both cities. There is two different MSA. Baltimore-Towson and Washington-Arlington-Alexandria. The combined statistical area is known as the CSA. Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia is considered a CSA but that does not make Baltimore a suburb since its a combined with another individual metropolitan area.

Feel free to ask the people in the D.C. and Baltimore forums and expect similar responses but Baltimore as a suburb to D.C. is not a fact.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:41 PM
 
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Probably suicidal. Washington continues to growth in size and importance while cHARM city continues to shrink in both.
Still does not make Baltimore a suburb and I live south of D.C.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:03 PM
 
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No, you're argument falls flat. It's quite obvious that YOU don't know what you're talking about!!! DC is obviously the most important city in the country. But that has nothing to do with this topic!!! The reason DC is the most important in the region is because it's the largest employment draw by far, much larger than Baltimore. This is one of the standards that the government uses when they put these CSAs/MSAs together. Don't you understand this? The fact that DC is the capital has absolutely nothing to do with this!! If Baltimore was the top employment draw and the largest city, the area would be called the Baltimore CSA. But because Baltimore is a suburb, it's called the Washington CSA. And when the two MSAs merge at some point in the future it will be called the Washington MSA. How are you going to feel then?
List of Combined Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Look at which city is listed first (excluding #6). The most important city in the CSA. That doesn't make any of the other cities listed a suburb by all means.

Your argument is invalid.
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