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Old 04-25-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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Hoggard named a top N.C. school | StarNewsOnline.com

I threw in the Conley (Greenville) info after reviewing the list. Unfortunately these are the only two high schools in the East that made the list, which they stopped at #36.
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:25 AM
 
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Do they just take into consideration the 40% who are in AP classes, or are they using the entire student body in the ranking? I noticed it mentioned that the testing scores for AP classes was used as an example. I wonder how the other 60% of the students did on testing? That's ones of the areas that often makes it difficult to rank schools (I worked in a High School system for 13 years). I was just curious, because the school I worked at required testing before a student was allowed to take any AP class, and they also had to get a teachers approval.
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:54 AM
 
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Do they just take into consideration the 40% who are in AP classes, or are they using the entire student body in the ranking? I noticed it mentioned that the testing scores for AP classes was used as an example.
Here's what the article said: "Those rankings reflect students' performance on Advanced Placement tests and teacher-to-student ratio."

It is a curious sort of ranking if they only count students in AP, who are a selective population.
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Old 04-27-2014, 06:00 AM
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I have told people for years that the quality of the high school is by % of those passing algebra and the number or percent of students taking AP course.

Locally, Havelock High is pretty darn good school, but they only offer a pitiful amount of AP course. Big cities equal big schools equal more teachers and flexibility to offer AP courses.

Unfortunately, even the number of AP is not that great an indicator of quality in some circumstances.

Everyone wants the golden bullet to discriminate the best schools. There is not one.

Not taking anything away from Hoggard, congrats, but the playing field on this metric is hardly level.
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Old 04-27-2014, 06:14 AM
 
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I agree, the rankings often don't tell the whole story. Its the same way in my home state of Maine. The school I worked at does offer a fair amount of AP courses, but not as many as I would like to see. Rankings are so confusing. We are currently in the College decision making mode....which is even more confusing :-)
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Old 04-28-2014, 10:55 AM
 
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I don't think its that confusing really...what is the point of school? To educate? This is a basically a ranking of how "college ready" are the kids in the school.

NC has a great community college system that helps with trades, etc...I'm not one to think that every kid will go to a 4-year school, but I think the goal would be for every kid to 1) Graduate High School and 2) Be at least prepared for a Community College type program.
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Old 04-28-2014, 12:50 PM
 
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I don't think its that confusing really...what is the point of school? To educate? This is a basically a ranking of how "college ready" are the kids in the school.

NC has a great community college system that helps with trades, etc...I'm not one to think that every kid will go to a 4-year school, but I think the goal would be for every kid to 1) Graduate High School and 2) Be at least prepared for a Community College type program.
The PRIMARY goal should be to graduate students from HS, because they are able to. Period. The secondary goal should be to make them ready for Community College.

Our state REALLLY needs to deemphasize going to 4-year schools, for the first year or two. CC do a great job at this, plus they cost a heck of a lot less. Especially for people who find out they.....don't want a college degree.
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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The PRIMARY goal should be to graduate students from HS, because they are able to. Period. The secondary goal should be to make them ready for Community College.

Our state REALLLY needs to deemphasize going to 4-year schools, for the first year or two. CC do a great job at this, plus they cost a heck of a lot less. Especially for people who find out they.....don't want a college degree.
My point is to get them "as smart" as they can be....and the rankings are really the rankings of the "smartest" schools. That being said, for the most part its just because of the demographics of the area's being served.
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