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Old 05-14-2010, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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Yes, windmills and solar are the direction to go. So far, I've not heard of any Three-Mile Islands, Chernobyls or oil gushing into our oceans caused wind and sun-generated energy. Economics are fine and good but after we destroy our planet, we cannot, in the end, eat money.

Nuclear waste has been buried in the earth or at sea. There is no safe way to dispose of it. Then there are the nuclear accidents caused by mechanical malfunction and human error.

My vote's going to clean and sustainable energy sources.
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Old 05-15-2010, 04:02 AM
Status: "48 years in MD, 18 in NC" (set 7 days ago)
 
Location: Greenville, NC
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Four or five million gallons of oil have already spilled, with no end in sight. Dead animals are washing up on the beaches, with more still out in the gulf unseen, drowning in toxic muck. The slick has spread over an area of approx. 2,500 miles. This sounds bad enough to me.
It's actually significantly worse than you can imagine.

BP recently reluctantly released the video of the main leak. Remember, there are actually 3 leaks, not 1.

Several experts in fluid dynamics have studied the video and come up with much, much higher flows. As much as 70,000 barrels a day.

That's 2,940,000 gallons a day.

This oil is much like an iceberg. What you see on the surface is a tiny, tiny fraction of what lies just under the surface.

Hurricane season begins next month. It is predicted to be an above average year with the subiding El Nino. Just like 2005. A hurricane or strong tropical storm would reak havock on the Gulf Coast. The submerged oil would be brought to the surface and would spread many miles into the marshes and other waterways along the coast.

There is no good way to get out of this situation and it's not going to just go away. For the Gulf Coast, it's not as issue of if because it is guaranteed to come inland, it's just a matter of when.
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Old 05-15-2010, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Southeastern North Carolina
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It's actually significantly worse than you can imagine.

BP recently reluctantly released the video of the main leak. Remember, there are actually 3 leaks, not 1.

Several experts in fluid dynamics have studied the video and come up with much, much higher flows. As much as 70,000 barrels a day.

That's 2,940,000 gallons a day.

This oil is much like an iceberg. What you see on the surface is a tiny, tiny fraction of what lies just under the surface.

Hurricane season begins next month. It is predicted to be an above average year with the subiding El Nino. Just like 2005. A hurricane or strong tropical storm would reak havock on the Gulf Coast. The submerged oil would be brought to the surface and would spread many miles into the marshes and other waterways along the coast.

There is no good way to get out of this situation and it's not going to just go away. For the Gulf Coast, it's not as issue of if because it is guaranteed to come inland, it's just a matter of when.
Yes, it is a nightmare. And I am truly afraid that this area will see some negative impact from this oil spill.
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Lake Waccamaw, NC
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Check this article out. Especially the last paragraph about the oil spill in 1979. The Associated Press: Where's the oil? Model suggests much may be gone
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Lake Waccamaw, NC
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I think in today's society we tend to go overboard when something like this happens. Remember the bird flu that was going to kill millions? What happened to that? Global warming? Polar bears dying? Turns out to be a hoax and the bears are doing fine.

Not saying the oil spill isn't going to cause lots of damage, it may...it may not. I don't know, and it looks like the "experts" don't know either.
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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Interesting about the polar bear demise being a hoax..what is that information based on? Reputable wildlife organizations are predicting the demise of the polar bear population by 2050 with the depletion of the pack ice they need for their survival.

Do you have other information I'm not aware of? Please share.
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Lake Waccamaw, NC
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Just the first one I looked up. There are numerous articles on the increase in bear populations.

Polar bear expert barred by global warmists - Telegraph
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Old 05-16-2010, 06:06 AM
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Location: Greenville, NC
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I think in today's society we tend to go overboard when something like this happens.
Tell that to the people that used to live in Times Beach, Missouri, Love Canal, Bhopal or Belarus. Disasters like these should always be "overboarded". As soon as you let your guard down the worst happens.
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Old 05-16-2010, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Lake Waccamaw, NC
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So keeping the country in a constant state of fear is the way to go? Please...


At some point you have to realize whats going to happen is going to happen. The world will not stop because of a localized disaster. It happens, you deal with it the best you can, and you move on.
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:35 AM
 
Location: The 12th State
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I think in today's society we tend to go overboard when something like this happens. Remember the bird flu that was going to kill millions? What happened to that? Global warming? Polar bears dying? Turns out to be a hoax and the bears are doing fine.

Not saying the oil spill isn't going to cause lots of damage, it may...it may not. I don't know, and it looks like the "experts" don't know either.
Are you kidding me ? Have you been watching the news?
People are canceling there gulf coast Summer vacation
They dont wont to swim in oil or some dispersant, they may say
its not toxic but you dont know the long term effects.
What about all the non mammal food that most of fish survive on.
We are in a Crisis.
This is a good time for our North Carolina Fisherman to beef up production
of our Oyster and Shrimp

Did you know a month ago I went to Carolina Beach , every restaurant
didnt have local oysters it a shame I mean heck cut out the middle man
(the delivery guy) Harvest Your own I want North Carolina Oysters
but I will avoid all seafood if we continue not taking care of our Ocean

On my last vacation Pookie & I finally agreed on something we want to
retire at Carolina Beach but that 30 years away. Pay attention we have one of the
most beautiful coast line.
Lets Protect it.
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