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Online universities provide a more convenient means to obtain an education. They are legitimate options, especially for working adults with families and businesses to run. Not everyone can go to a B&M school, especially with budget cuts forcing some schools to give preference to out-of-state and foreign students for the high tuition fees they pay. These schools are money-driven. These attacks on online schools because they're "for-profit" are really are ridiculous as the birther movement.
We're in the 21st century now, and fortunate to have the online option so education is available to more people.
Many BM schools have online programs now. There is nO reason to go to a for-profit and pay more for an inferior degree. The main reason for going is they let anyone in.
Many BM schools have online programs now. There is nO reason to go to a for-profit and pay more for an inferior degree. The main reason for going is they let anyone in.
Who do you think would get hired?
1. Someone with 10 years work experience in the field who graduated from an online for-profit university or someone with 1 year work experience in the field who graduated from a brick and mortar school?
2. Someone who has a down to earth persona during the interview or someone who has the "know it all" persona during interview?
Once you have an experience in your field, do you really think that the school still matters for the hiring person?
During interview, the MAJORITY of hiring authorities think, "I can work with this person and we will get along well" or "This person will be a pain in the ass to work with".
1. Someone with 10 years work experience in the field who graduated from an online for-profit university or someone with 1 year work experience in the field who graduated from a brick and mortar school?
2. Someone who has a down to earth persona during the interview or someone who has the "know it all" persona during interview?
Once you have an experience in your field, do you really think that the school still matters for the hiring person?
During interview, the MAJORITY of hiring authorities think, "I can work with this person and we will get along well" or "This person will be a pain in the ass to work with".
All you need to do is look at salary and employment data for those that graduate(not many do) from a for-profit. When a school has no requirements the students are poor. Simple as that.
No one who can get into a real school is spending more money for an inferior eduction.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of non-profit schools have online programs. I got my BA at a public college and I'm attending a public university (in-state) for my master's all online. I plan on applying to an online PhD program that's at a public university. The people who think for-profits are their only option have not searched very hard. Do more than just look at t.v. commercials, billboards, and Google ads.
There is absolutely no reason why someone should spend $715 per credit hour to get a master's degree at University of Phoenix unless they can't get in anywhere else. It doesn't matter if the degree is seen as legit by employers. There are plenty of higher quality online programs around that price or less. I attended UoP's Axia College for over a year when I was 19 (unfortunately young and dumb). There was nothing but busy work and my classmates were nearly illiterate. Community colleges are filled with illiterate students too, but at least they're cheaper and I wasn't saddled with irrelevant, busy work.
State-funded public colleges and universities: They get their MONEY from taxes paid for by the working Americans.
Non-Profit colleges and universities: They MUST spend the MONEY that they earn to improve the school like buying new buildings, expanding the programs, reconstruction of the old buildings, etc.
For-profit colleges and universities: The MONEY that they make are spent to their Board.
ALL SCHOOLS are business. ALL business needs profit to keep it open. Otherwise, the business will CLOSE DOWN if there is no MONEY from any source.
Compare the tuition of a non-profit school, National University's online classes at $1422 per course for non-military. Compare it to American Military University or American Public University that is a for-profit school at $750 per course whether you are military or non-military.
Get what I mean?
I get what you're trying to say, but you're wrong. A non-profit university is not a business no matter how you look at it.
1. Someone with 10 years work experience in the field who graduated from an online for-profit university or someone with 1 year work experience in the field who graduated from a brick and mortar school?
2. Someone who has a down to earth persona during the interview or someone who has the "know it all" persona during interview?
Once you have an experience in your field, do you really think that the school still matters for the hiring person?
During interview, the MAJORITY of hiring authorities think, "I can work with this person and we will get along well" or "This person will be a pain in the ass to work with".
I wish this were still true. Unfortunately, in recent months we have known several people who were awesome applicants, highly experienced, interviewed well, but not hired because they do not have a 4 year degree. Something is changing in Corporate America. I'm not sure what it is or why... it probably boils down to money: the more experienced people expect higher pay and benefits while the fresh out of college person is just happy to work their tail off for scraps even if they don't know what they are doing. This is what we've seen with large telecommunication companies, anyway. They are probably trying to phase out benefits and want fresh applicants who don't know any better and they can offer them less.
All schools are businesses, sure, but not all are run the same. Just like all 4-year schools offer degrees, yet not all are held in the same regard.
The more I have thought about this issue... the less I feel sorry for the people who sign up for these schools. It's their life, their debt, their choice.
There's a huge difference with an on-line for-profit college and a brick and mortar college that offers on-line classes. Berklee is a well respected brick and mortar college, no wonder the classes were good. The OP is talking about colleges like University of Phoenix.
Yes, for profit schools like U of Phoenix are basically scams supported by guaranteed student loans. The credits don't transfer anywhere and the degrees they grant are generally looked on as garbage.
Lots of not for profit schools have started offering classes (and sometimes entire degrees) online and these are generally looked on the same as their brick and mortar classes.
The only not for profit I know of that is entirely online is Western Governors University, and it is quite a bit cheaper than the for profit schools.
Yes, for profit schools like U of Phoenix are basically scams supported by guaranteed student loans. The credits don't transfer anywhere and the degrees they grant are generally looked on as garbage.
While I do not like UoP, it does not help your argument to throw out false statements. UoP is regionally accredited and their credits do transfer to many non-profit schools. Even Texas A&M accepts UoP credits.
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