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Old 08-04-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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Another recipe for success:

1) Do well in high school
2) Research the best college for you that offers what you want to study, where you want to study etc and that offers you the best financial aid package
3) Go and live on campus cut the cord and experience college to the fullest in terms of interests outside of class be that sports, clubs whatever
4) Major in something you love and that interests you
5) Follow your passion after graduation and realize you will likely change paths, careers many times over and the better prepared you are for THAT, regardless of your major, the easier you will adapt and thrive...
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Who's paying? Financial aid as a 100% grant would be nice. But what if it isn't a 100% grant?
4) "Doing what you love" = great way to destroy yourself
5) Find The Thing You're Most Passionate About... ....and then do it on evenings and weekends for the rest of your life....
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:00 PM
 
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Your plan would cost our kids thousands more than they will pay....how exactly is this a "recipe for success?"

What does "would cost our kids thousands more than they will pay" mean? It doesn't make sense.

Who are "our kids"? Your kids personally? The kids of America? Who are you talking about?
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:28 PM
 
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What does "would cost our kids thousands more than they will pay" mean? It doesn't make sense.

Who are "our kids"? Your kids personally? The kids of America? Who are you talking about?
My kids and what they are paying for their college now...
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:56 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I take objection to the view that all colleges are expensive, but this obviously depends on where you draw the line between valued at the right price and overly valued. Private school costs are kind of hard for me to justify. When you get a full time job, you're going to be tied down with constant payments on loans. Personally, as a rising sophomore in college, here is my advice.

1. As someone else already mentioned, take high school seriously. Not only in terms of grades/ GPA, but score high on the SAT (take it three times if necessary), and try to enroll in a lot of AP classes and attempt the AP exam (they're not that hard). Case in point, I got a 4 on the English Literature exam and I have always been horrid at interpreting poetry and my writing is not that good.

2. Do your research when applying to schools and try to have a general idea as to what you're going to major in. Pick a school based on location, financial aid, academic reputation, etc NOT how big of a party school it is or if a lot of your friends are going there. Also, going to a community college for two years is not a bad idea.

3. If you are able to, COMMUTE to college. Dorm one year if you want the "experience", but it's not all that according to some of my friends.

I currently attend Rutgers and tuition is around 7,000 a semester and I commute. Scholarships cover like 2,700 and a federal grant adds in another 1,000 or so. That leaves me to pay 3,300 which I make at my part-time job so I don't have to take out any loans.

My school also offered me a work-study job so that allows me the opportunity to earn money that I allot for books, car insurance, gas, and food.

Luckily, I live at home because if I didn't, I would be forced to take out a loan to get through school. But, if you can stay at home and there is a way to commute to school, I think it's foolish to not only take advantage of this, but also find a job and attempt to pay off school without the assistance of government loans. Interest rates have been set so artificially low, which boosted the demand for college and which has set the price for college up (what you're seeing now). Sometimes, it's best to let the markets of supply and demand come to a natural equilibrium, but I digress.

Punch line, as with all things in life, there are alternative methods to make college affordable, whether it be going to community college or dealing with a 30 minute commute as these present-day choices/sacrifices will ultimately benefit you in the long run.
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Old 08-04-2013, 03:18 PM
 
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I never really stopped to think about it, but...

For Boston University, what most would consider a decent school, definitely popular enough that they would offer most of their students little to zero aid:

Four Steps to Managing the Cost of Your Education » Financial Assistance | Boston University

Four year total of $245,904.

Wow!

I'm not really sure how any parent (let alone student taking on loans) could justify that these days.

Investing that money slowly over a 20 year period and just giving it your kid after that time seems like a much safer bet.
I have two students, one middle, one upper middle who are going to BU this fall. Both got at least half of their tuition met by BU.
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Old 08-04-2013, 03:26 PM
 
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Recipe for success:

Major in something practical.
Attend a community college for two years, live at home
Transfer to some local university, live at home if possible
Graduate with minimal debt in four years (some majors like engineering take an extra year)

There's nothing worse than attending some big bucks school to major in some "softology" and ending up with gnarly student loans. Even not attending college is worse assuming the person acquires a skilled trade such as electrician or plumber.
While there is absolutely nothing wrong with community college, there is real, tangible benefit to being on campus as well. My daughter could live at home and commute and would save 4k a year in subsidized loans, that will be 20k by the time she is done since she is double majoring. That being said, last year she was able to do work study for a researcher whose odd hours would have made it impossible if she was commuting. That turned into a paid summer internship and an all expense paid trip to a research conference in Brazil, whose networking value is priceless.

Sure she could have saved a few buck (very few when you factor in the summer internship) but the networking value she has gained by being on that big university campus is priceless and we won't know the true worth until grad school. Based on the people who are already asking her to apply to their programs I suspect she is now going to get a very good fellowship. So ultimately, spending that "extra" cost to live on campus is going to save significant money when it comes to graduate school.

That being said if a student will not take advantage of those opportunities, than your plan might save them some money.
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Old 08-04-2013, 03:32 PM
 
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My kids and what they are paying for their college now...
So who is paying for their college?
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Old 08-04-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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Your plan would cost our kids thousands more than they will pay....how exactly is this a "recipe for success?"




Explain how it will cost your kids more money.
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Old 08-04-2013, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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My kids high school graduating class has three students attending Boston College this fall. There families will not qualify for financial aid at any college that they would attend, and they can afford the full tuition price :O. All of them are going in with a lot of AP credits, one of the girls has applied for advanced standing and will graduate one year early (I don't know about the other two kids).

It's sure an expensive college!
She shouldn't count her chickens before they're hatched.
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Old 08-04-2013, 03:56 PM
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Location: Hudson Valley, NY
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According to the Common Data Set, Boston University gives financial aid to 92% of it's students (met their need) with an average package size of $37,655. That is hardly "little to no aid". The Common Data Set is a report all colleges are required to file outlining their admissions practices, results and financial aid information if you are not familiar with that.
$30K of the 'aid' we were offered was in an unsubsidized Stafford loan and Parent Plus loans. Officially they met our need and could report it as such. Not exactly the same as the schools that offered us a $25K scholarship or the $22K grant.
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