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Old 12-05-2009, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I currently have a 3.2 GPA and 164 LSAT score. Any chance that I might get into even one law school? I know it is terribly difficult to get into law school with such crappy numbers.

Please Advise...

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Old 12-05-2009, 04:50 PM
 
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Yes. I dont recall what the LSAT scores that are desirable are- and your GPA is not that bad. Do some research and find a way to distinguish yourself and let the applications fly.
I would caution you to seriously examine a legal career though.
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Old 12-05-2009, 04:52 PM
 
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By examine you mean figure out whether that is the career I really want to pursue?
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:06 PM
 
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By examine you mean figure out whether that is the career I really want to pursue?
Yes - particularly developing a realistic expectation of the early years of practice and the demands personally and professionally.
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The LSAT scoring system has changed since I took the LSAT, so I don't know what percentile that score is. Still is right - your GPA is not bad. I would be surprised if you couldn't get in to a law school, but the question would be how well ranked a school you would get in. Don't even consider unaccredited schools. Depending on what type of law you want to practice, the reputation of the school you attend may be important. It will definitely affect how easy it is for you to get a job at the end of it. And yes you should do your research regarding a legal career. I took 4 years off after college to consider it and research it but I think I still didn't have the full picture. Provided you have thought it through and you really do want to make a go of it you should be able to get in somewhere. But again, it's an expensive education so your job prospects are an important consideration unless you can pay for it other than through a student loan.

One thing I would recommend is that you think about the geographical place you want to be and see if there is a law school in that general area. A Harvard or Yale degree is respected everywhere. But if you don't have the grades and scores to get in there then you could look to regionally respected schools. For example, a degree from Northeastern in Boston is more likely to be able to get you a decent job in Boston than in Los Angeles. I am more familiar with Boston in this respect because that is where I went to law school and began my legal career. But I suspect it is similar elsewhere. For example, a law degree from University of Miami will get you farther in Florida than in Illinois.

Good luck!
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:13 PM
 
Location: NC
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You will certainly get into a law school do your research when applying, would like to go and do not mind paying for it. For admissions I think your GPA is going to be the limiting factor. A 164 is around the 92 percentile on the LSATs, it's a good score congrats.

Here is a table for LSAT scores

http://www.alpha-score.com/lsat-reso...res-explained/

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Old 12-05-2009, 06:37 PM
 
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By examine you mean figure out whether that is the career I really want to pursue?
That and you need to examine the realities of the profession. If you don't go to a top school or graduate in the top 10% of your class then there is a good possibility that you will not get a good enough job that will enable you to pay back your debt. Take a look around the internet at posts by law students. I have seen countless rants from Tier 2 school graduates who lament their $100,000 in debt and the fact that they are doing document review work for $15 an hour.
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho
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You will certainly get into a law school do your research when applying, would like to go and do not mind paying for it. For admissions I think your GPA is going to be the limiting factor. A 164 is around the 92 percentile on the LSATs, it's a good score congrats.

Here is a table for LSAT scores

LSAT Score Conversion Chart @ Online LSAT Prep Courses – Alpha-Score.com
Interesting. Up to 25% incorrect on a multiple choice test can give you a percentile of 91%.

FOr the hell of it, I ran a little stat experiment. 5 choice MCQ. 100 Questions. The probability of getting X% correct is Y%.

20% --> 54.0% Probability
25% --> 13.1%
30% --> 01.1%
34% --> 00.1%

If for four question MCQ...

20% --> 90.0% Probability
25% --> 53.8%
30% --> 15.0%
35% --> 01.6%


So 20-25% correct, or LSAT of 125-130 (depending on 4 or 5 question MCQ format) is what a monkey should be expected to score on average.

75% correct, or LSAT of 163 earns you 91% percentile.

S.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:13 AM
 
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re law school and lousy grades.
well shcolarship is out so ............
a really lousy time to take out a mega student loan.
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Old 12-06-2009, 11:46 AM
 
Location: NC
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Interesting. Up to 25% incorrect on a multiple choice test can give you a percentile of 91%.

FOr the hell of it, I ran a little stat experiment. 5 choice MCQ. 100 Questions. The probability of getting X% correct is Y%.

20% --> 54.0% Probability
25% --> 13.1%
30% --> 01.1%
34% --> 00.1%

If for four question MCQ...

20% --> 90.0% Probability
25% --> 53.8%
30% --> 15.0%
35% --> 01.6%


So 20-25% correct, or LSAT of 125-130 (depending on 4 or 5 question MCQ format) is what a monkey should be expected to score on average.

75% correct, or LSAT of 163 earns you 91% percentile.

S.
That is correct though for this particular averaging of tests both a 75% and a 76% earn you a 163. (There is some variation from test to test). The test is a 5 question MCQ format, so 20% will result in the .08 percentile -/+ the standard deviation for this averaging. The test is done on a bell curve with, after the first 15-20 or so questions, every 1-3 correct answers increasing the score by a point. It is designed so that less then 10% of people can get between 85%-70% correct with the majority of people getting between 40%-70% correct. The makers of the test have had years to practice perfecting this curve and 20% of each test consists of one of several new experimental sections so they can collect data every administration as to what works to fit their curve. The scores and percent correct numbers can vary a bit because of subtle differences in the quality of test and the test takers so that is not set in stone. For example, when I took the test it was a slightly easier test then the average of the chart shown. I answered 79.5% correct and received a 163 which put me in the 88.5% percentile.
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