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Old 02-15-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Yup....I don't know anything about the mayor, but it's also easy to assume he arbitrarily dismissed someone, but we also don't know what kind of employee the former budget director was either. What if she was misappropriating funds?
We have no reason to assume that, of course. But if that were true, simply dismissing an employee for that reason would probably be illegal since it is illegal to misappropriate public funds. Such a person should be charged, and of course that would become public information.

The mayor shouldn't be able to get rid of employees just because they are not on his "side" of things. The only question should be if they are fulfilling their job description.
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:17 AM
 
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I'm all for cutting any fat from the city administration. It's time for the public sector to enjoy the life of the private sector, do more with less. Keep chopping. RP
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I don't know what the Mayor is up to...and that's the point. Was the budget director job surplus? Will this dismissed employee be replaced? And if so, at what salary? Why wasn't the Council informed and consulted with? How much is this (apparent) employee loyalty vetting costing the city?

This is not the first city employee to be abruptly dismissed by our new Mayor...and to the best of my knowledge; there is no information what so ever being volunteered by the Mayor's office regarding any of these actions. There appears to be a lack of accountability going on here, at least to me. Perhaps our new Mayor is testing how far he can go with the new “Strong Mayor” job description.
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Manitou Springs
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It is a reference to an old game show. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_$64,000_Question. It is now a colloquial phrase meaning the big question.
I assumed everyone here was as old as I am
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Ya'll are surpised?
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I'm all for cutting any fat from the city administration. It's time for the public sector to enjoy the life of the private sector, do more with less. Keep chopping. RP
Cliche.

I'd much rather any cuts be well thought out by people who actually have some knowledge of the situation.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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A bunch of internal e-mails from the mayor to her apparently got leaked to City Council members. That kind of brazen disloyalty will get you fired anywhere I have ever worked.

Part of the deal with a strong mayor is having a guy that manages--and that means hiring and firing--the city's employees. If they aren't elected, then he's their boss.

It's a big pain to have to replace someone in a critical position like the budget director...they have a lot of corporate knowledge that you depend on day-to-day. So I'm sure it wasn't done lightly. But he has to be able to trust his staff--especially those in upper-level critical positions.
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:52 AM
 
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We have no reason to assume that, of course. But if that were true, simply dismissing an employee for that reason would probably be illegal since it is illegal to misappropriate public funds. Such a person should be charged, and of course that would become public information.

The mayor shouldn't be able to get rid of employees just because they are not on his "side" of things. The only question should be if they are fulfilling their job description.
No double standard.

We have no reason to assume that he got rid of employees just because they are not on his "side" of things.

If you are going to point out that assumptions about a persons behavior with no evidence are unacceptable, it seems absurd to make the same kind of claim in your next paragraph. Perhaps I missed the satire or sarcasm intended.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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A bunch of internal e-mails from the mayor to her apparently got leaked to City Council members. That kind of brazen disloyalty will get you fired anywhere I have ever worked.
Wouldn't the content of those emails from the Mayor have a bearing on the case? It's my understanding that the emails in question were demanding that the staff (the budget director) ignore and/or go around directives made by the City Council. If that's true, we probably have two wrongs here, with the price being paid by an employee who's "loyalty" was apparently in conflict. This is the kind of thing that if left unchecked will cause great division without our city Government. Which leads me back to the original question from this thread…Bach, are you a bully?

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Old 02-17-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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NO continuity, keep chopping.
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