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Old 02-19-2012, 10:24 AM
 
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Bach appears to just trying to be cute or petulant, or both. Not sure what's to be gained from this strategy. Right now, Bach is pretty much supported by the Gazette and the Biz Journal, not so much by the Indy. All three, as well as radio and tv, live and die by competition to get local stories, investigative pieces, etc. by their publishing deadline or air time. All the news outlets will be unified in objecting to Bach's practice, which robs them of their respective competitive edges. Again, what's to gain by alienating all the news providers, including those whose editorial philosophies are sympathetic to him? Whether one agrees or not with how the news media conduct themselves, they still serve to keep politicians "honest" or whatever passes for honesty in politics these days.
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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This looks like another example of where politicians, the media and those with an axe to grind are trying desperately to get everyone to choose sides. You can see it just about everywhere...”us versus them...those who yell the loudest win…no compromise…my way or the highway…our values are under attack”.

IMHO, we don’t need leaders who are bullies, and we shouldn't be put in positions where we feel compelled to choose sides. Whatever happened to “...the meek...shall inherit the earth”?
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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IIRC, it was the Indy that dug up the dirt on Bach's past and made a big stink, I'm sure Bach is getting even, it's just SSDD politics.
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Old 02-27-2012, 08:04 AM
 
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. What if she was misappropriating funds?
If she were, shouldn't we know about it?

Makes you wonder about the parallel universe in which Skorman is our mayor... I wanna go there.
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Old 02-27-2012, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Again....employees have a right to privacy as well.

I don't have any loyalty to the new mayor, but I also don't want to go off and accuse him of untoward behavior....as seems to be the flavor of this thread....as I don't know anything about the situation.

Also, I don't know if it's necessarily my business to question someones hiring/firing choices within his own staff.
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Also, I don't know if it's necessarily my business to question someones hiring/firing choices within his own staff.
Are you a citizen of Colorado Springs? If yes, it is definitely your business to question our new "strong" Mayor's actions. Holding elected officials accountable for their public service deeds (and miss-deeds) is 100% legitimate, and required in any free society.

With regard to the firings of several long time employees since Bach took over…what I want to know is how much this employee turnover is costing the city. Mayor Bach presented himself as a strong willed fiscal conservative Republican (that's what he ran on), and I want to see just how true that platform is. Intuitively, my belief is that this (apparent) loyalty vetting rampage our Mayor is on has costs the city a boatload of money. Some facts and figures would be most helpful.

As a point of reference, our Mayor recently shot-down a proposal to run a world-class bicycle race through the city this summer, on the grounds that it would costs too much. Not even considering the thousands of dollars in new tax revenue an event like that would bring the city; I’d like to know the costs details that were the basis of this decision…is he trying to save money on venues that benefit the city to pay for vendettas and loyalty vetting?

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Old 02-27-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Yes, I do live here.

Do you assume that long-time employees must necessarily be "good employees?" Perhaps holding someone accountable is the reason some employees were let go in the first place? Again....what about privacy of the employees themselves? Must they divulge that information? No.

Do you know them all personally? Are you familiar with their employment histories? As you seem to be determined to vehemently defend them.

There MUST be some sort of conspiracy at work here!!

Yes, I do have concerns about the well-being of the city I live in, but I don't assume there must be something dastardly at work, because I did or did not vote for Bach.......you seem to assume the worst....I just don't.
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Old 02-27-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Do you assume...
Actually, I have not asked any of the questions you posed or assumed anything. I would just like to know the costs of these actions our Mayor has taken. Disclosure always clears the air...
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Arlington, Va
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This looks like another example of where politicians, the media and those with an axe to grind are trying desperately to get everyone to choose sides. You can see it just about everywhere...”us versus them...those who yell the loudest win…no compromise…my way or the highway…our values are under attack”.

IMHO, we don’t need leaders who are bullies, and we shouldn't be put in positions where we feel compelled to choose sides. Whatever happened to “...the meek...shall inherit the earth”?
I put zero faith in politicians now, I am past 35 one can only get bent over backwards and lied to so many time before you start believing that not a single one of them are honest... but more like born under a sign or something.

We need to start putting our faith back in our fellow man... if this ever happens it will be no time at all before people begin to see we don't need them and they will be exposed for the thieves and sell-out they are.

I'd probably breathe a sigh of relief at a collapse because then I'd know we were really on our way forward to rebuilding.
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Arlington, Va
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Are you a citizen of Colorado Springs? If yes, it is definitely your business to question our new "strong" Mayor's actions. Holding elected officials accountable for their public service deeds (and miss-deeds) is 100% legitimate, and required in any free society.
Heavy!

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Mayor Bach presented himself as a strong willed fiscal conservative Republican (that's what he ran on), and I want to see just how true that platform is. Intuitively, my belief is that this (apparent) loyalty vetting rampage our Mayor is on has costs the city a boatload of money. Some facts and figures would be most helpful.
Well I will keep spending my money there... there was something special about the springs area for me and 45K-60k +/- isn't too bad for a grease monkey.

I am going to follow this mayor thing and I don't even live there... yet!
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