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Old 01-15-2010, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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My daughter is a physical therapist in the Springs, and she sees people who cannot drive, walk, or ride their bikes, no matter how close they live to where they are going. She has helped people figure out the bus system as part of her job. There is a need for public transportation.

BTW, I don't know of any large cities that don't have public transit.
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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My daughter is a physical therapist in the Springs, and she sees people who cannot drive, walk, or ride their bikes, no matter how close they live to where they are going. She has helped people figure out the bus system as part of her job. There is a need for public transportation.

BTW, I don't know of any large cities that don't have public transit.
To be honost I can't think of any city over 100,000 people that does not have mass transit.
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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To be honost I can't think of any city over 100,000 people that does not have mass transit.

The real questions are who does the system reach, and who's paying.

"Honostly" (sic)

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul
Can always expect support from Paul
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Old 01-16-2010, 07:33 AM
 
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Default FREX gone?

Well, now the smug city council is killing one of the best ideas for the front range.

Molly
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Old 01-16-2010, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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The real questions are who does the system reach, and who's paying.

"Honostly" (sic)

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul
Can always expect support from Paul
Then perhaps the Springs should get rid of the bus system and we can see how well a city can function without one. If you are right there should be no issues.....
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Old 01-16-2010, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Falcon
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Bottom line: stupid people that choose to live 10+ miles from their livelihood deserve to suffer the consequences of their unintelligent decisions. I really don't want to hear their complaints when the entirely foreseeable spectre of high bus fares or gas prices puts the idiocy of their decisions in its proper light.
Let's caveat this with people who chose to live 10+ miles away without being able to provide for a means to get there.

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Then perhaps the Springs should get rid of the bus system and we can see how well a city can function without one. If you are right there should be no issues.....
My guess is that the effect would be barely, if at all, noticeable. Rarely do a see a bus with more than 1 or 2 people on it. Not trying to start a slap fight here, just an observation.
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Old 01-16-2010, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Then perhaps the Springs should get rid of the bus system and we can see how well a city can function without one. If you are right there should be no issues.....
That's up to the people that want to use it. If there enough of them, and they're willing to pay for the services they want, I have no problem with keeping it.

But busses running empty most of the time does suggest a minor impact if they do go away.
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Old 01-16-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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That's up to the people that want to use it. If there enough of them, and they're willing to pay for the services they want, I have no problem with keeping it.

But busses running empty most of the time does suggest a minor impact if they do go away.
Then perhaps the Springs should stop all funding for the bus system. Then if it can pay for it self great if not they can stop it and see what kind of a affect it has on your couminity.
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Old 01-20-2010, 05:13 AM
 
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No bus service on week-ends or at night; now Front Range Express is ending. If FREX was popular and making a profit, where is all of the money?

What is up with Colorado Springs city government; who are they for anyway? Good thing we have elections.
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Old 01-20-2010, 05:58 AM
 
Location: SW Colorado
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Well, yes, of course it's all about money. The reality is that the people using the bus system aren't paying enough in fares to fund its operation. When the day comes that gas hits $5 to $10 a gallon, the balance should start to shift.

But there are some that think that their inability to afford a car translates into an obligation on the part of everyone else to pay a significant part of their transportation expenses. If people want a public transportation system, then the people using it should expect to pay enough in fares to support its operations.
Well said!
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