Nov 2013 elections in COLO (Englewood, Durango: high school, tax, education)

[ceg0720]

Ok - so whatever happened to these?

Colorado Funding for Public Schools Act, Amendment 23 (2000) - Ballotpedia

TABOR faithful celebrate expiration of Ref C, but it ain't exactly over | The Spot

Colorado State Spending Act, Referendum C (2005) - Ballotpedia

[GoneNative]

I voted no on 66 and it felt wonderful. I can't wait to vote in a new Republican government next year.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by iknowftbll

So true. We spend a lot more per student than a lot of other developed countries yet they are running circles around us, especially in the math and sciences categories. I read several studies on this in grad school. I think before we increase spending on education we need to audit what we already are spending and repurpose funds from programs that are not netting results. I feel this way about all government spending.

And you are in a great position to prove that point -- in the US, Colorado ranks 40th in per pupil spending.

[McGowdog]

"Although public schools are usually the biggest item in state and local budgets, spending figures provided by public school officials and reported in the media often leave out major costs of education and thus understate what is actually spent." - CATO Institute article, They Spend What?

[Colorado Rambler]

Originally Posted by dude_reino

I have yet to see evidence that throwing money at schools results in a better educated workforce.

Our children's education will never get better until all parents take ownership in their childs' education.

Oh, please with the "throwing money" cliche. I was a faculty member at a Colorado Institute for High Education for years. Wanna know what the money was "thrown at"? Books, computer literacy, and equipment for science labs. Let me count the ways. You want to imply that people like me and my colleagues were just greedy blood suckers? No, you should be thanking me and all the other teachers who helped you learn the alphabet, so you could actually read and respond to this thread. A knee jerk response about "throwing money" is not an intelligent response, it's just a knee jerk response.

Pffft! Just one more thread around here to put on my personal ignore list. Have fun working at McDonald's for minimum wage.

Adios,
- Rambler

[cowboyxjon]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

And you are in a great position to prove that point -- in the US, Colorado ranks 40th in per pupil spending.

Who cares? I get tired of this line. For being 40th, our schools aren't terrible.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by cowboyxjon

Who cares? I get tired of this line. For being 40th, our schools aren't terrible.

Oh, you're right. They're not terrible.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Colorado Rambler

Oh, please with the "throwing money" cliche. I was a faculty member at a Colorado Institute for High Education for years. Wanna know what the money was "thrown at"? Books, computer literacy, and equipment for science labs. Let me count the ways. You want to imply that people like me and my colleagues were just greedy blood suckers? No, you should be thanking me and all the other teachers who helped you learn the alphabet, so you could actually read and respond to this thread. A knee jerk response about "throwing money" is not an intelligent response, it's just a knee jerk response.

Pffft! Just one more thread around here to put on my personal ignore list. Have fun working at McDonald's for minimum wage.

Adios,
- Rambler

How right you are. At the public school level we just threw tons of money at our school to make things ideal for learning. You know -- baked food sales, making profits on selling yearbooks, magazine fundraisers, fund raising by the PTA. Yup just threw those big bucks at education.

[bluescreen73]

I'll tell you what when Amendment 66 fails, I'll vote for it the next time if it includes clauses for ending teacher pensions, reducing the glut of do nothing administrators, getting rid of the teachers union, eliminating tenure, and paying teachers based on merit...otherwise the public education beast can go pound sand.

[iknowftbll]

Originally Posted by bluescreen73

I'll tell you what when Amendment 66 fails, I'll vote for it the next time if it includes clauses for ending teacher pensions, reducing the glut of do nothing administrators, getting rid of the teachers union, eliminating tenure, and paying teachers based on merit...otherwise the public education beast can go pound sand.

Exactly. But then if they did all that they wouldn't need the extra funds because of all the money they would be saving. Hence my original argument: It's not a revenue problem, it's a spending problem.