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Old 04-08-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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I have to inform someone that, because of liability issues, they cannot park on my premise anymore. I'd like to do it by email because it is easier than sending a notarized letter. Does an email on my end create a record that something was indeed mailed to her? Thanks for any advice.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:55 AM
 
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I have to inform someone that, because of liability issues, they cannot park on my premise anymore. I'd like to do it by email because it is easier than sending a notarized letter. Does an email on my end create a record that something was indeed mailed to her? Thanks for any advice.
No, what you need is called a Certified Letter. The individual has to sign for it, which gives you proof it was received.

Otherwise you could try to get this person to respond to your email, which could prove they received and read it. Not sure that this will do anything for you in court, if that's where you think this is headed.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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I have to inform someone that, because of liability issues, they cannot park on my premise anymore. I'd like to do it by email because it is easier than sending a notarized letter. Does an email on my end create a record that something was indeed mailed to her? Thanks for any advice.
Because there are liability issues, I'd go with the notarized letter. It's just worth the effort, and besides, has a more serious effect on the person receiving it.

With email, you probably would not even be able to prove the person received and read it.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:06 AM
 
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Because there are liability issues, I'd go with the notarized letter. It's just worth the effort, and besides, has a more serious effect on the person receiving it.

With email, you probably would not even be able to prove the person received and read it.
A notarized letter won't do anything either. The notary is just going to sign that the OP signed the letter in their presence. This doesn't prove that the recipient received it or read it. If you think the recipient is going to go sign your letter in front of a notary, you must see some way to coerce them that you are leaving out.

Seriously, just use a Certified Letter from the Post Office, they sign to receive the letter and it will probably cost you $4.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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Because there are liability issues, I'd go with the notarized letter. It's just worth the effort, and besides, has a more serious effect on the person receiving it.

With email, you probably would not even be able to prove the person received and read it.
It's thorny because she's a very good neighbor in a very neighbor-friendly neighborhood and is very fond of my mother and vice-versa. A notarized letter might be overkill; the ins. co. told me they aren't even requesting proof of informing her, and I'd like to keep it as simple and friendly as possible. I'm puzzled because Wikileaks is producing all these emails that were secretly mailed. Doesn't that give some indication that emails are tracked somehow? Usually, if I email someone I can I can print out a copy showing that I send that email to them if the email is a working address. I'm going to call her anyway and inform her of the situation and let her know that, per the ins. co.'s advice, I send her an email. I know she'll be very understanding about the matter, but I'd just like to have something in print showing that I also informed her in writing.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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I have to inform someone that, because of liability issues, they cannot park on my premise anymore. I'd like to do it by email because it is easier than sending a notarized letter. Does an email on my end create a record that something was indeed mailed to her? Thanks for any advice.
If the person ignores your email and continues to park there ultimately, you have some kind of consequences in mind such as towing the vehicle, etc. If you do this and the person says... "I never got an email from you" then YOU could be liable to pay towing charges plus damages if they decide to sue you.

This is one time when you cannot go the "easy" route and must man up and send this letter via certified mail with return receipt requested. Then you have the PROOF that they had been notified and continued to park there despite knowing that they should not.

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Old 04-08-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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But doesn't sending an email create some kind of record that can be retrieved?
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:53 AM
 
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I'm puzzled because Wikileaks is producing all these emails that were secretly mailed. Doesn't that give some indication that emails are tracked somehow?
Depends on how they are stored/retrieved etc. For example you're email provider like an ISP usually has POP accounts. The email is stored on the ISP's server until you retrieve it thorough email client like outlook. Once retrieved it's deleted on the ISP's server and the only copy is the one you have. If they offer IMAP the email is stored on their server and remains there, the benefit here is you can access it from any computer. Web based email is pretty much the same thing as IMAP.

Of course you can't guarantee its been deleted....

As far as the wikileaks documents go I believe government agencies operate under strict rules where all those emails are saved.

In any event a printed copy, electronic copy or any type of copy is not going to hold up in court in most cases but it can easily be edited.
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:01 PM
 
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Depends on how they are stored/retrieved etc. For example you're email provider like an ISP usually has POP accounts. The email is stored on the ISP's server until you retrieve it thorough email client like outlook. Once retrieved it's deleted on the ISP's server and the only copy is the one you have. If they offer IMAP the email is stored on their server and remains there, the benefit here is you can access it from any computer. Web based email is pretty much the same thing as IMAP.

Of course you can't guarantee its been deleted....

As far as the wikileaks documents go I believe government agencies operate under strict rules where all those emails are saved.

In any event a printed copy, electronic copy or any type of copy is not going to hold up in court in most cases but it can easily be edited.
Thank you very much for that helpful information, coalman.
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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I have to inform someone that, because of liability issues, they cannot park on my premise anymore. I'd like to do it by email because it is easier than sending a notarized letter. Does an email on my end create a record that something was indeed mailed to her? Thanks for any advice.
All they have to say is that they automatically delete all email from unknown parties without reading, which in fact is something I do, if it makes it through my spam and junk filters.

Prove they read it you can't.
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