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Old 10-09-2016, 07:07 AM
 
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^ agree that 256 would be a good comfort factor.

You can do with less, much less IF you agressively manage storage. I have a 128 GB SSD on this computer, a Surface Pro 3, with 50 GB still free, and I have a lot of programs (including Photoshop, Lightroom, MS Office Pro etc. Breakdown of use:

25 GB Win10
29 GB Users
5.8 GB Program files
4.4 GB Program files (x86)
8.7 GB ProgramData

But I also clear caches and various windows hiding places on an irregular basis.
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Old 10-09-2016, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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I've upgraded both my desktop and laptop to SSD. I have a 1TB in the desktop and recently put a 500gb in my laptop. Bootup with both is almost instant with Windows 10. Programs load much quicker as well.
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Old 10-09-2016, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Europe
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jaypee, Tek_Freek roger that.
thanx!
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Old 10-09-2016, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Europe
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^ agree that 256 would be a good comfort factor.

You can do with less, much less IF you agressively manage storage. I have a 128 GB SSD on this computer, a Surface Pro 3, with 50 GB still free, and I have a lot of programs (including Photoshop, Lightroom, MS Office Pro etc. Breakdown of use:

25 GB Win10
29 GB Users
5.8 GB Program files
4.4 GB Program files (x86)
8.7 GB ProgramData

But I also clear caches and various windows hiding places on an irregular basis.
It seems you have a lot of programms installed to "Users" folder.
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Old 10-09-2016, 12:50 PM
 
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^ The "users" folder is where a lot of things get cached by programs, like Chrome's cache.

Just looked (using a utility). Biggest are Garmin (maps) at 6 GB and something called Packages, at 7 GB. Packages seems to have a lot of app data, like e-books. Why there? No idea.

No programs go into Users, just lots of program related data.
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:03 AM
 
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I think it'll be tight. Why wouldn't you want a 128GB SSD? It isn't twice as expensive (prob $10 or so more).
Plus SSDs slow down as they reach full capacity, and 128GB are almost always slower to start with for read/write than 256GB.
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Old 10-10-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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^ just as importantly, different brands/models of SSD vary widely in their performance. Fast and cheap don't go together. Would the speed difference make any real world difference, probably not, but it depends on your use.

One other factor to keep in mind is your OS. Newer ones automatically configure for a SSD (no defrag, trim enabled among others), older may or may not - you should check.
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Old 10-10-2016, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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I just finished building my new system this weekend and breaking it in. Installed a 256SSD with the 1TB.
I keep my music on a RAID'ed external USB hard drive. Some of us old timers still have music collections, Bugbear.
Anyway, I installed Windows, MS Office and Irfanview on the SSD... my 2 goto programs. I want those to be quick.
Everything else gets installed to the E drive. I have over 100GB free on C.
And, like Wartrace, boot time and shutdown too... incredibly fast. I used to leave the old computer on 24/7 because it was so slow to boot and wife was working from home a lot. Because it's so fast, we'll be shutting it down.
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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OP, if you don't need an optical drive, here's a similar laptop with better GPU, 128GB SSD plus a 1TB HDD:

Acer 15.6" E5-575G-5341 Intel Core i5 6200U (2.30 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M 8 GB Memory 128 GB SSD 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Gaming Laptop - Newegg.com

Same price as your original laptop when you use code: MPGAMER16 for $25 off.
THAT looks nearly perfect for me and solves my concerns about storage. Thank you!

One question: I have used my optical drive exactly once in the last year when I needed to load software for a very old Dymo labelmaker. After the windows 10 forced upgrade, the drivers from the Dymo site did not work, so I uninstalled everything and reinstalled from the CD (which is probably 10+ years old). It updated, and works now. I have to assume that I will have the same issues with the software on the new computer. I would like to keep using this labelmaker.

So - without the optical drive, how can I get this software on the new computer? I use a portable backup (and keep it in my fire proof safe). Does all my software backup to my portable backup and get moved to my new computer when I do a restore? (I know, stupid question. Be gentle.)
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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USB optical drives are incredibly cheap these days. That's one option.
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I've also found that just about any commercial software can be downloaded fro, anrmally only have updaters online though.
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