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Old 09-07-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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Or they just take I-84 all the way there an avoid New Haven altogether.
The people who live in Orange, Woodbridge, Derby and Seymour are going to go north to 84, over and then south?

Yeah...makes a lot of sense.

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But I'm getting off topic.
Honest question-

Do you just come here to b**ch?
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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The people who live in Orange, Woodbridge, Derby and Seymour are going to go north to 84, over and then south?

Yeah...makes a lot of sense.



Honest question-

Do you just come here to b**ch?
Merritt to 91 to 95. Still faster than lugging through New Haven. A lot safer too.
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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LOL.

Really though? So now people from Orange/Woodbridge/Valley/Danbury are going to have to navigate the city streets of New Haven if they want to go to the beach or casino?

You've got to be kidding me...
It's really not going to be much different than it is now. Route 34 to the right hander to Ella is the same. Then you turn left back onto 34, everything's the same right up until the point you get past Yale New Haven. At that point, it'll be a city street instead of a "highway" (I quote because it's a stretch to call that tiny strip of road a highway) directly to the onramp to 95. It's less than a mile.

It really won't change it much. A few extra stoplights and hopefully a more attractive area.
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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A lot safer too.
Yeah, because suburbanites are getting shot and jacked left and right driving through 34.
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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The areas of Newark that have had attention paid to them are much better than they were. Same goes for Jersey City. Whereas New Haven and Bridgeport (at least everywhere other than Josephs and Harbor Yard), remain lousy no matter how much money we throw at them. SoNo isn't far behind, nor are parts of Stamford. A lot of very weak leadership and ostrich-ing in this state. If we can't see it, it's not happening. Also a lot of whitewashing by the lifers who want to pretend there isn't a problem.

That's the difference. In NJ, people will tell you, yeah we have a problem that we need to do something about. In New Haven, they'll swear to you there isn't an issue, in between dodging bullets.

But I'm getting off topic.
I will put Stamford up against Jersey City for being transformed any day and Stamford is not right across the river from Manhattan. As for Newark, there have been some improved areas but the same could be said about portions of New Haven and Hartford. I am in New Haven a lot and have NEVER had to dodge any bullets.

As far as I have seen Camden and Paterson are still run down. One of the Paterson suburbs (West Paterson) just change its name to Woodland Park because of the negative connection to Paterson. Years ago East Paterson changed its name to Elmwood Park. Don't know of any Connecticut town that has done that or is even thinking of it. Jay
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:03 AM
 
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I will put Stamford up against Jersey City for being transformed any day and Stamford is not right across the river from Manhattan. As for Newark, there have been some improved areas but the same could be said about portions of New Haven and Hartford. I am in New Haven a lot and have NEVER had to dodge any bullets.

As far as I have seen Camden and Paterson are still run down. One of the Paterson suburbs (West Paterson) just change its name to Woodland Park because of the negative connection to Paterson. Years ago East Paterson changed its name to Elmwood Park. Don't know of any Connecticut town that has done that or is even thinking of it. Jay
Oh come on. Every 10 houses in Norwalk has their own "town" name (ever hear of Rowayton?). Even parts of Stamford and Greenwich are classified by neighborhood and not by town. In the case of Greenwich, it's actually to separate THOSE people from Greenwich.

And you'd be foolish to compare Stamford to JC. Companies are actually heading TO Jersey City, and it doesn't require $20MM bribes. Stamford could easily be the next Bridgeport once UBS/RBS skip town. I lived in Stamford in 2003-2004. Stamford is heading in the wrong direction. Even the downtown area is looking worse for wear. Which is a sad thing.

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Old 09-07-2011, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Oh come on. Every 10 houses in Norwalk has their own "town" name (ever hear of Rowayton?). Even parts of Stamford and Greenwich are classified by neighborhood and not by town. In the case of Greenwich, it's actually to separate THOSE people from Greenwich.

And you'd be foolish to compare Stamford to JC. Companies are actually heading TO Jersey City, and it doesn't require $20MM bribes. Stamford could easily be the next Bridgeport once UBS/RBS skip town. I lived in Stamford in 2003-2004. Stamford is heading in the wrong direction. Even the downtown area is looking worse for wear. Which is a sad thing.
What are you taling about??? Every town has sections or neighborhoods. These are related to their postal address. This is common all over the country. In New Jersey, the towns are even smaller than here in Connecticut so they don't have different names wihtin the same community.

And didn't New Jersey just give a major "bribe" ($27 million) to UBS to keep their Jersey City facilities in New Jersey? Even New York is coughing up major $$$ to attract companies back into the city or keep them there. Conde Naste just got a major "bribe" to move down to the Financial District. As for Stamford looking "worse for wear", I just don't see it. Jay
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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Oh come on. Every 10 houses in Norwalk has their own "town" name (ever hear of Rowayton?). Even parts of Stamford and Greenwich are classified by neighborhood and not by town. In the case of Greenwich, it's actually to separate THOSE people from Greenwich.

And you'd be foolish to compare Stamford to JC. Companies are actually heading TO Jersey City, and it doesn't require $20MM bribes. Stamford could easily be the next Bridgeport once UBS/RBS skip town. I lived in Stamford in 2003-2004. Stamford is heading in the wrong direction. Even the downtown area is looking worse for wear. Which is a sad thing.
You make absolutely no sense. Do you see the sq mileage of towns in NJ vs CT? NJ's are a fraction of towns like Greenwich, and even Darien.

Regarding UBS/RBS (which isn't happening), I guess you forgot about the other hundreds of hedge funds/corporations in the Stamford/Greenwich area.

Such negativity...
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:20 PM
 
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Most cities are removing highways entirely. New Haven is basically rebuilding one as is, even though everyone knows that businesses and residents want attractive, walkable streets. It represents a complete lack of vision, and a folly that all the residents in the state will be once again paying for for another 50 years. I'm guessing that all the planners still feel like they live in the 1960s.

This wouldn't be so bad in Bridgeport or Hartford (what's another highway?), but over the past 5 years, New Haven has been the only part of our state with job growth, so this just represents a huge missed opportunity in that sense. It's just going to drive more jobs from our state in the name of getting some faceless suburban commuters to their office 30 seconds faster.
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:03 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Why do you say that? Do you even know anything about this? Jay
Yes i do , i follow alot of CT projects....

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What city is NJ has been changed? Newark is still Newark. Camden is still Camden and Paterson is still Paterson. Not much different really. Jay
Actually the North & East Wards of Newark are very nice and crime in those sections is average , Camden has scrubbed its Downtown and Waterfront which have numerous projects underway. Paterson has a growing Restored Historic Downtown and a strong Middle Class in the Western section.

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They won't. But if more people like Nexus have their way, you'll be able to transfer to 18 different branch lines and trolleys and "commute" to/around New Haven. cause you know...cars are evil.
Its a Generation thing , and trend for the last 20 years. If you don't like it move out of the Northeast or out of the Megapolis part. But This isn't just limited to this region , its a National wide thing but on a smaller scan. The South is the only region ignoring the trend and this generation for the most part.
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