02-21-2015, 07:10 PM
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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It might be too far, but it's worth checking out New Haven. Specifically East Rock. It has more character than White Plains or Stamford, a stellar dining and arts scene, entertainment, museums, and is seeing a lot of new construction right now. It's also
a lot cheaper, roughly half the price to buy and easily 30-40% cheaper to rent. The one place it suffers in comparison is schools and crime. On the schools front, it wouldn't matter to you. As far as crime, you have no reason to be in the bad neighborhoods, and all the places you want to go in New Haven are pretty safe. Crime overall is dropping. As someone used to urban living, I think you will find it pretty innocuous. East Rock is one of the safer neighborhoods in the city, and is very charming and walkable. Wooster Square is also worth consider, as well as parts of downtown like 9th Square.
Some nice new construction going live soon:
http://www.winchesterlofts.com/
http://collegeandcrown.com/
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/i...t_development/
http://renttheunion.com/
http://metrostarproperties.com/metro-280-new-haven/
All should be done this year. Many are aimed at the baby boomer demographic.
You would have to drive to Brooklyn either way, as the train is inconvenient to Brooklyn. The drive from New Haven in non-peak hours is around 90 minutes. I do it almost twice a month. You could also get the ferry in Bridgeport to get to Long Island. You're also close to some great parks, beaches, etc. when you want to get away from the city, and an area that's a bit less congested overall.
Just an idea if you want to save some money while still being in a vibrant small city.
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02-21-2015, 09:02 PM
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Are you opposed to moving back to Brooklyn? If I was retired and could afford it, I'd choose there over white plains or Stamford. But, if you're looking for a change and want a slower pace, I'd pick Stamford over White Plains, mostly because it's on the water. Other than that, the two cities are very comparable.
02-21-2015, 11:17 PM
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It might be too far, but it's worth checking out New Haven. Specifically East Rock. It has more character than White Plains or Stamford, a stellar dining and arts scene, entertainment, museums, and is seeing a lot of new construction right now. It's also a lot cheaper, roughly half the price to buy and easily 30-40% cheaper to rent. The one place it suffers in comparison is schools and crime.
Don't get mad at me Stylo but I just want to point something out. My husband and I are going to move out of Fairfield County in retirement (it will be too expensive) and I would have loved to live in a small city like New Haven. I am looking into Branford, Guilford and Madison right on the coast east of New Haven. New Haven has a lot of great things going for it except the crime. I think as people who will be in retirement is very important. Here is the difference between Stamford and New Haven.
Crime Down In Stamford; Ranked 16th Safest City In U.S.
Crime Down In Stamford; Ranked 16th Safest City In U.S. « CBS New York
Crime in America: Top 10 Most Dangerous Cities Under 200,000
Crime in America: Top 10 Most Dangerous Cities Under 200,000 | Law Street (TM)
When I am retired I don't want to worry about out running someone who wants to assault me or rob me and that is why New Haven will be out of the question in retirement.
Please don't shoot the messenger (being me), I just want the OP to understand the vast difference in the safety between Stamford and New Haven.
02-21-2015, 11:35 PM
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They're pretty similar. I slightly prefer White Plains, but both are good options.
White Plains has slightly better urbanity, hillier, definitely better shopping/restaurants, and is a little closer/more convenient to NYC.
Stamford has the Sound, more corporate HQ, closer to scenic country areas, and probably more newer apartment options.
Both will work for you. But why not live directly in NYC if you want an urban center? Closer to family, and honestly, Brooklyn is about 1,000 times better than both options for lovers of city life.
02-22-2015, 12:37 AM
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You would have to drive to Brooklyn either way, as the train is inconvenient to Brooklyn. The drive from New Haven in non-peak hours is around 90 minutes. I do it almost twice a month. You could also get the ferry in Bridgeport to get to Long Island. You're also close to some great parks, beaches, etc. when you want to get away from the city, and an area that's a bit less congested overall.
Not really. I'm totally on-board with the New Haven recommendation, but the train is far more convenient than any drive down 95/Queens/Brooklyn would be. In fact, taking the train to GCT would give him the option to take the 6x into Brooklyn,
and the 7 to LIC (where his son lives).
02-22-2015, 02:44 AM
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Source?
OP, I like Stamford a lot better as a city. It's just nicer. IMO White Plains doesn't have more character, just the opposite with all the urban malls and chains. There are a lot of other nice towns in Westchester and Fairfield counties though, if that's a consideration.
Why are you limiting yourself to those 2 cities? Where is family and how close do you need to be to them? The further out you go, the more affordable things will get and generally a quality of life improvement overall.
I meant to say FFC, oops! If you need a source, here it is:
Stamford Talk Resources: Younger Workers: Getting the Hell Out of the FC
Also, I do know from personal references that a lot of young people are moving out of Stamford. Being a young person myself you kind of just.. hear it from what your peers are saying and what your friends friends are saying. So on and so forth.
02-22-2015, 04:43 AM
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Not really. I'm totally on-board with the New Haven recommendation, but the train is far more convenient than any drive down 95/Queens/Brooklyn would be. In fact, taking the train to GCT would give him the option to take the 6x into Brooklyn, and the 7 to LIC (where his son lives).
I'm with Stylo. The train is good for getting into the Bronx and Manhattan, but is useless for the other three buroughs. It takes way too long. I had a work event in Willamsburg last week. I drove and my colleagues took the train (during rush hour) from Stamford. I got there 30 min before they did.
02-22-2015, 06:29 AM
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Thx everyone!
I'll definitely check out the New Haven option keeping in mind the crime rate is substantially different.
My son recently moved to LIC, and our seems that the real estate situation is quite challenging in the boroughs. Once we are in the Metro area we may check out Brooklyn and Queens for the long term but the rest race seems to be alive and well and logistically I don't think we can find a place in a decent time frame once we have to make our move. Also, the Boroughs may be too overwhelming for us after living in Chicago Lakeview for 40 years.
We do want to see our family frequently, so the New Haven drive, which sounds twice that of Stamford and White Plains is a factor. Of course, saving on rental would be a big plus. From what I recall though, Stamford seems to have more inventory than New Haven. I could be wrong though. I'll have to research.
02-22-2015, 07:37 AM
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Don't get mad at me Stylo but I just want to point something out. My husband and I are going to move out of Fairfield County in retirement (it will be too expensive) and I would have loved to live in a small city like New Haven. I am looking into Branford, Guilford and Madison right on the coast east of New Haven. New Haven has a lot of great things going for it except the crime. I think as people who will be in retirement is very important. Here is the difference between Stamford and New Haven.
Crime Down In Stamford; Ranked 16th Safest City In U.S.
Crime Down In Stamford; Ranked 16th Safest City In U.S. « CBS New York
Crime in America: Top 10 Most Dangerous Cities Under 200,000
Crime in America: Top 10 Most Dangerous Cities Under 200,000 | Law Street (TM)
When I am retired I don't want to worry about out running someone who wants to assault me or rob me and that is why New Haven will be out of the question in retirement.
Please don't shoot the messenger (being me), I just want the OP to understand the vast difference in the safety between Stamford and New Haven.
Again it depends where you are. Take it from someone that works there everyday. I go all around East Rock and downtown for lunch and after work and never feel unsafe. Would I feel unsafe in Dixwell and Fair Haven at midnight? Probably. That's where the crime stats are happening. Many areas are as safe as any city and it's only getting better.
I suggest you spend more time there to make a more informed position. The city is fighting hard against negative PR that wouldn't exist for similar cities that cover a larger footprint.
02-22-2015, 07:43 AM
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Again it depends where you are. Take it from someone that works there everyday. I go all around East Rock and downtown for lunch and after work and never feel unsafe. Would I feel unsafe in Dixwell and Fair Haven at midnight? Probably. That's where the crime stats are happening. Many areas are as safe as any city and it's only getting better.
I suggest you spend more time there to make a more informed position. The city is fighting hard against negative PR that wouldn't exist for similar cities that cover a larger footprint.
I'm not super familiar with New Haven, but I've been to all three of these neighborhoods and I can concur. East Rock is like an artsy version of Stamford, in fact dare I say it even reminds me of a smaller-scale version of those yuppie neighborhoods in Brooklyn that have developed like DUMBO and Park Slope.
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Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)