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Old 04-19-2020, 01:39 PM
 
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My prediction for "100% Normal" is July-August. Everything will be completely forgotton by both the doomers and the conspiracy sect by Sept-Oct timeframe. THe Dow will back to near 30K just in time for Nov 3rd.

Just a gut, I don't have any fancy graphs, stats, and colors.
The doomers won’t let anyone forget until November.
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Old 04-19-2020, 01:45 PM
 
Location: USA
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The doomers won’t let anyone forget until November.
Nah, they'll be on to something else by then.
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Old 04-19-2020, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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The doomers won’t let anyone forget until November.
No one will want to hear it by then
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Old 04-19-2020, 01:49 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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My prediction for "100% Normal" is July-August. Everything will be completely forgotton by both the doomers and the conspiracy sect by Sept-Oct timeframe. THe Dow will back to near 30K just in time for Nov 3rd.

Just a gut, I don't have any fancy graphs, stats, and colors.
Man, I hope you are right! The big unknown at this point is the whole second wave / third wave debate that no one seems to know the answer to. In other words, is everything going to be relatively normal by the late summer or early fall and then we have to shut it all down again in December or January.
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Old 04-19-2020, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Man, I hope you are right! The big unknown at this point is the whole second wave / third wave debate that no one seems to know the answer to. In other words, is everything going to be relatively normal by the late summer or early fall and then we have to shut it all down again in December or January.
By fall/winter I predict:

1. An accurate IFR (lower than expected), and a closer idea of what herd immunity means in a lot of places.
2. Some effective treatments.

Which will make it a non-event.
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Old 04-19-2020, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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By fall/winter I predict:

1. An accurate IFR (lower than expected), and a closer idea of what herd immunity means in a lot of places.
2. Some effective treatments.

Which will make it a non-event.

I think humanity may surprise itself and we may even have a vaccine by the end of the year. We are probably working towards one at the fastest pace in history and I think the only thing slowing us down right now is the time it takes to prove that each phase's trials work. Of course if none of the current vaccine candidates end up a success, then I will be wrong as we'll have to start the whole process from scratch.



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Originally Posted by SteveM85 View Post
My prediction for "100% Normal" is July-August. Everything will be completely forgotton by both the doomers and the conspiracy sect by Sept-Oct timeframe. THe Dow will back to near 30K just in time for Nov 3rd.

Just a gut, I don't have any fancy graphs, stats, and colors.

I think if we're careful and don't rush where we end up with a 2nd wave I agree with this. July is a very long time from now (as far from now as January is back) and a lot (good) can happen.

I learned of this new site just created by the founders of Instagram. It shows each state's current R0 with graphs showing the trend. Apparently CT's is the lowest one in the country by far right now! (with VT a distant 2nd but with good numbers). They show Cuomo's recent 0.9 claim for NY but they said it's ticked a little over 1 again there, apparently at its worst around a month ago or so NY had the highest R0 anywhere in the country for this, one close to 5!

https://rt.live/


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Old 04-19-2020, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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I think humanity may surprise itself and we may even have a vaccine by the end of the year. We are probably working towards one at the fastest pace in history and I think the only thing slowing us down right now is the time it takes to prove that each phase's trials work. Of course if none of the current vaccine candidates end up a success, then I will be wrong as we'll have to start the whole process from scratch.






I think if we're careful and don't rush where we end up with a 2nd wave I agree with this. July is a very long time from now (as far from now as January is back) and a lot (good) can happen.

I learned of this new site just created by the founders of Instagram. It shows each state's current R0 with graphs showing the trend. Apparently CT's is the lowest one in the country by far right now! (with VT a distant 2nd but with good numbers). They show Cuomo's recent 0.9 claim for NY but they said it's ticked a little over 1 again there, apparently at its worst around a month ago or so NY had the highest R0 anywhere in the country for this, one close to 5!

https://rt.live/

I mean, I guess that site is fine for entertainment, but with inconsistent testing policy, it’s all a wild guess before we have antibody studies.
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Old 04-19-2020, 02:41 PM
 
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Sean Hannity has jumped all over this theory that it was a lab experiment gone wrong that was covered up by the Chinese government. It's POSSIBLE that will prove to be true, but I doubt it.
I think the lab accident hypothesis carries a lot of merit. Toxic Chinese drywall, poisonous Chinese dog foods, thousands of other defective products, China is synonymous with poor quality. Studying a natural virus in the lab that escapes through an accident or other sloppy research practices fits right in with China's low quality reputation.
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Old 04-19-2020, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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Uh oh, I hope this doesn't lead to CT closing the outright like NJ did a couple of weeks ago (and hasn't lifted). Apparantly this story is from 11am this morning:

https://www.wfsb.com/news/some-ct-st...46d5671c1.html
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Old 04-19-2020, 03:07 PM
 
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Was driving home and there doesn't seem to be any change in life in CT

Think the best thing is set a certain threshold of cases. New cases bi-weekly have to be no greater than 250 cases.

Increase testing for COVID-19.

Allow businesses at their discretion to allow asymptomatic COVID-19 employees to work or quarantine for 14 days.

Think need to continue to encourage businesses to allow employees to work at home.

Shut down non-essential businesses on Sunday.

Non essential Government departments open Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday.

State operated facilities/parks/campgrounds only allowing 25 to 50 percent of max occupation of visitors.

Encourage individuals when unable to social distance to wear a mask.

Allow businesses to refuse service to individuals not wearing a mask.

Work towards setting up volunteers to deliver essential items for populations most vunerable to COVID-19 in CT.

Encourage 65+ shopping hours at grocery stores.

Look at weekly COVID cases at healthcare facilities. Create an average number of PPE supplies needed and quadruple that number. Ensure that number of supply stays like that.

Allow businesses to remain open and encourage to adhere to social distancing guidelines.

Increase public transportation services and limit number of individuals using public bus/rail/car at a time.

Increase distribution of automatic hand dispensers in public hot zone areas.

Cancel all large Government run events over 50 people.

Private events of large gatherings can continue. However, encourage these businesses and individuals to cancel large events for safety concerns.

Reassess restrictions every 2 months.

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