[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

I was always sort of bothered by case counts, but not because of the inability to see the real picture as we’re discussing here. But because initially, and throughout the worst of the pandemic, media reported actual number of COVID cases, not per 100k people. Initially, you had New York, CA, TX and FL looking like war zones without the acknowledgement that these states have many times the population of most.

The data we will never know is how many people were actually infected, since many didn’t get tested - especially during the initial stages of the virus. That’s the data Jay was requesting. I’m sure there are estimations somewhere, but actual hard numbers aren’t going to be found [obviously].

Off topic for CT, but the reasons for TX and FL getting the justifiable criticism is because of the present situation. Their high deaths and hospitalizations. Considering there are vaccines available which prevent the latter (not preventing illness, but absolutely prevent serious illness), those were totally avoidable and so doubly tragic. That's the point I think Jay was making...where patients are having to be sent even to CT for care.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/19/healt...ons/index.html

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Off topic for CT, but the reasons for TX and FL getting the justifiable criticism is because of the present situation. Their high deaths and hospitalizations. Considering there are vaccines available which prevent the latter (not preventing illness, but absolutely prevent serious illness), those were totally avoidable and so doubly tragic. That's the point I think Jay was making...where patients are having to be sent even to CT for care.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/19/healt...ons/index.html

You’re talking about something completely different.

I mentioned the big four states having an unfair disadvantage when solely reporting case counts during the initial stages of the pandemic, and not a “per 1,000 residents” count. I’m not discussing the present situation (for which FL’s cases have now dropped significantly - but we don’t see media reporting that, do we?).

We saw one patient sent to CT for treatment, solely because a hospital was able to accommodate them. That’s the sole reason. Do you have evidence that “patients” have flocked to CT from FL and TX en masse, or even more than that one?

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

You’re talking about something completely different.

I mentioned the big four states having an unfair disadvantage when solely reporting case counts during the initial stages of the pandemic, and not a “per 1,000 residents” count. I’m not discussing the present situation (for which FL’s cases have now dropped significantly - but we don’t see media reporting that, do we?).

We saw one patient sent to CT for treatment, solely because a hospital was able to accommodate them. That’s the sole reason. Do you have evidence that “patients” have flocked to CT from FL and TX en masse, or even more than that one?

Coming to CT for ECMO was just a symptom. The phenomenon of hospital/ICU capacity being pushed to the brink in FL and TX is the underlying issue. Tons of stories on that, I'm not going to link them all.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Coming to CT for ECMO was just a symptom. The phenomenon of hospital/ICU capacity being pushed to the brink in FL and TX is the underlying issue. Tons of stories on that, I'm not going to link them all.

Tons of stories of Floridians specifically coming to Connecticut for treatment?

[Stylo]

This site gives real-time capacity numbers:

https://covidactnow.org/us/texas-tx/?s=23341252
https://covidactnow.org/us/florida-fl/?s=23341252
https://covidactnow.org/us/connecticut-ct/?s=23341252

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

Tons of stories of Floridians specifically coming to Connecticut for treatment?

READ carefully. Tons of stories on hospitals/ICUs in FL & TX being pushed to the brink. Why don't you just put me on ignore?

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

READ carefully. Tons of stories on hospitals/ICUs in FL & TX being pushed to the brink. Why don't you just put me on ignore?

One of Florida’s most populated counties, Broward, has 40% of ventilators available, and 500 ICU beds available. In Palm Beach County, 332 of 549 ventilators are available with 123 adults in the ICU with 114 ICU beds available. But the media would never report on that. I wouldn’t call that “being pushed to the brink” but the numbers are still high.

Edit to add CT numbers:

For Danbury hospital, 63% of ICU beds are taken. I couldn’t find the information for the Yale network. That’s not terrible, but also not good.

[Stylo]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

For Danbury hospital, 63% of ICU beds are taken.

I believe that's fairly normal. Hospitals don't have a ton of excess beds as it's not profitable.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by Stylo

I believe that's fairly normal. Hospitals don't have a ton of excess beds as it's not profitable.

That’s a solid point. I was actually trying to figure out what normal ICU capacity is in Danbury. A quick Google search tells me it’s between 57 and 82% at level 1 trauma centers. This makes it even more difficult to compare state vs state.

[gmdealerguy]

One of my employees tested positive this morning. Second person at work in the last 7 days. He's home for 10 days. He is fully vaccinated. Since I am his manager, I am around him constantly. 3 of my employees are not vaccinated, one works right next to him and I had to send him home for 10 days to quarantine and monitor for symptoms. We have all kept wearing masks on at work since not everyone is vaccinated. Easier that way. So now I have to monitor myself for symptoms as well. So tired of this. I guess we will see how the vaxx works. He's 25 ,I am 53