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Old 08-13-2021, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Here's the top 10 for those who can't get past HC's paywall.

1. Bridgeport - 148,654
2. Stamford - 135,470
3. New Haven - 134,023
4. Hartford - 121,054
5. Waterbury - 114,403
6. Norwalk - 91,184
7. Danbury - 86,518
8. New Britain - 74,135
9. Meriden - 60,850
10. Bristol - 60,833
I’m confused by this list of the Top 10. I just saw in a CT Post article linked below that Fairfield has 61,512 people. This got me thinking of other towns that size. According to the 2020 US Census data West Hartford is 64,083 and Greenwich has 63,518. Shouldn't they be on the list in place of Meriden and Bristol? Hamden has 61,169 so Fairfield and it would come next pushing Meriden and Bristol to No. 13 and 14. Jay

https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/...n-16383560.php

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/we...cdpconnecticut

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/gr...ntyconnecticut

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...icut/PST045219
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Northern Fairfield Co.
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I’m confused by this list of the Top 10. I just saw in a CT Post article linked below that Fairfield has 61,512 people. This got me thinking of other towns that size. According to the 2020 US Census data West Hartford is 64,083 and Greenwich has 63,518. Shouldn't they be on the list in place of Meriden and Bristol? Hamden has 61,169 so Fairfield and it would come next pushing Meriden and Bristol to No. 13 and 14. Jay

https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/...n-16383560.php

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/we...cdpconnecticut

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/gr...ntyconnecticut

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...icut/PST045219
It’s probably because they’re strictly sticking to the ones incorporated as a “city”. Fairfield, Greenwich and West Hartford are all “towns” and therefore aren’t on the list. It’s silly
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:18 AM
 
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I saw this yesterday about NYC. I would have never though NYC grew like this. I assumed they lost population, especially with a lot of the prognosticators on this site.

2020 Census shows NYC’s diverse population grew to unexpected 8.8M.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...YCs-population

When NYC grows in population it makes sense that towns and cities along Metro North and Fairfield County will grow too. My mom's family was from Brooklyn and moved to the Stamford area, NJ and Long Island. In the neighborhood where I grew up in Stamford I would say about 20% to 25% of the people moved there from NYC/Westchester by the time I was 18.

This is surprising especially since we see posters* (from other states) all the time on here that EVERYONE from the north is leaving and moving down south lol. I was starting to believe it so this below is good news.

"Leading a decade of rapid growth and increasing diversity in metro areas from coast to coast, the city (NYC) grew by a healthy 7%, or about 630,000 people, defying predictions about lackluster growth in the five boroughs..........Out of the nation’s 10 biggest cities, only a handful of Sun Belt burgs grew faster than Gotham in the past decade."

All of those people who moved to Fairfield County during Covid would have eventually made it here anyway eventually. Covid just made the decision faster for them.

**Especially my friend "Beach" from FL in the CT economic thread. She keeps insisting that CT will fall into the crapper because we are tied to NYC and they are doing do bad because everyone is leaving......SURPRISE lol.
Obviously not *everyone*, but a good number are, proven by NY’s loss of a seat, and the gaining of seats in FL and TX. Not sure how this can even be disputed.
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Old 08-13-2021, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Fairfield County CT
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Those are just the top 10 "cities". If you include towns here are the top 10:


1. Bridgeport - 148,654
2. Stamford - 135,470
3. New Haven - 134,023
4. Hartford - 121,054
5. Waterbury - 114,403
6. Norwalk - 91,184
7. Danbury - 86,518
8. New Britain - 74,135
9. West Hartford - 64,083
10. Greenwich - 63,518
I can read the Hartford Courant article but I don't see a list like this in it. Where are you getting this information?
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Old 08-13-2021, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Stamford and Worcester New Haven Lowell Providencearr all good signs for urban southern New England.

The only dregs are Sprigfield Hartford Holyoke and possibly New Britain? Pittsfield? Basically all the cities too far from NYC and Boston
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Old 08-13-2021, 02:31 PM
 
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Dregs? Springfield gained, Holyoke lost, Pittsfield lost. Hartford I still think has potential but it's going to take awhile. Sometimes it's just a few towns away. I don't think NYC really lost but some moved within. Moving from Manhattan to Brooklyn isn't really *that* big of a move
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Old 08-13-2021, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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Obviously not *everyone*, but a good number are, proven by NY’s loss of a seat, and the gaining of seats in FL and TX. Not sure how this can even be disputed.

Census is responses from January to April, COVID started in the middle of it. So there was likely some population loss after the census. But a lot of articles out there saying people are coming back, Manhattan apartments harder to find again etc. so it may be that it still reflects now and years to come.



Also and based on your first sentence I think you agree here, it's relative. California technically grew and still lost a seat as well (for the first time), and NY was literally something like under 100 more people away from not losing a seat. Also most of upstate NY shrunk as usual to make up some of the gains in NYC and suburbs (in an even bigger surprise, both Buffalo and Rochester metros grew (very very very slightly though) for the first time since 1950 but rest of upstate didn't). FL and TX clearly grew more (and by a bigger percentage) than NY regardless and I don't think anyone is disputing that.



The real point is the growth is still a lot higher than expected. Most estimates growth on the level of a tepid 1-2%. Prediction was for Stamford to be 129K, not 135K, Yonkers to be 200K, not 211K, NYC itself to be about 8.4 million, not 8.8 million. My hometown of Mt. Vernon, NY was expected to stay at 67K or even shrink slightly and it ended up at 74K.
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Old 08-13-2021, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Northern Fairfield Co.
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These figures were pre-pandemic
My firm just announced on Monday that we will be giving up one floor of space in our Manhattan building and opening our first office on Long Island in lieu of that in January 2022. We will also be expanding our footprint at the DC office.
Who knows what the next few years will bring
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Old 08-14-2021, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Western Connecticut
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Norwalk 91K? Geez. It was also surprising to see Waterbury gain population, considering the fact that they have been stuck in the 104-110K range for about 70 years. I was also reading in a similar article in the Stamford Advocate that the town of Canaan unfortunately declined by 12%. Very sad to see that area continue to struggle.
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Old 08-14-2021, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Norwalk 91K? Geez. It was also surprising to see Waterbury gain population, considering the fact that they have been stuck in the 104-110K range for about 70 years. I was also reading in a similar article in the Stamford Advocate that the town of Canaan unfortunately declined by 12%. Very sad to see that area continue to struggle.
Cheaper housing and rents it attract a lot of people to Waterbury it 30 mins to Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven areas.


2030 Census my prediction

Waterbury 119k
Hartford 128-129k
Stamford 148k-150k
Bridgeport 151k
New Haven 143k
Norwalk 100k
Danbury 92k
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