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Old 08-21-2021, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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New Haven is experiencing a housing boom right now. The growth pattern is a bit different from Stamford given the Yale presence, but it's there. All three cities (Hartford, New Haven, and Stamford) are different. They also seem to be doing development that fits the needs of their communities. It helps that the mayors of these cities are pretty competent too and understand that you have to build new housing (+Bridgeport too although their mayor is....interesting). As for the affordable housing piece, yes that's needed, but I'd much rather see New Haven build a ton of new market rate housing to grow the tax base and add vibrancy to under developed spots, especially near the train stations. We already are the affordable housing center for the region and I'd rather see the towns pick up their fair share there or else CT needs to invest a ton via PILOT if folks want New Haven to take on ALL the affordable housing to "protect the character" of their towns.

https://www.newhavenindependent.org/...building_boom/
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Old 08-21-2021, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Fairfield County CT
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New Haven is experiencing a housing boom right now. The growth pattern is a bit different from Stamford given the Yale presence, but it's there. All three cities (Hartford, New Haven, and Stamford) are different. They also seem to be doing development that fits the needs of their communities. It helps that the mayors of these cities are pretty competent too and understand that you have to build new housing (+Bridgeport too although their mayor is....interesting). As for the affordable housing piece, yes that's needed, but I'd much rather see New Haven build a ton of new market rate housing to grow the tax base and add vibrancy to under developed spots, especially near the train stations. We already are the affordable housing center for the region and I'd rather see the towns pick up their fair share there or else CT needs to invest a ton via PILOT if folks want New Haven to take on ALL the affordable housing to "protect the character" of their towns.

https://www.newhavenindependent.org/...building_boom/


"We already are the affordable housing center for the region and I'd rather see the towns pick up their fair share there or else CT needs to invest a ton via PILOT if folks want New Haven to take on ALL the affordable housing to "protect the character" of their towns."



"I'd much rather see New Haven build a ton of new market rate housing to grow the tax base and add vibrancy to under developed spots, especially near the train stations."


Almost 1/3 of New Haven's housing is affordable housing and that is just too much. It's not fair. Stamford on the other hand has north Stamford where the wealhty live to balance out the town.
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Old 08-21-2021, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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"We already are the affordable housing center for the region and I'd rather see the towns pick up their fair share there or else CT needs to invest a ton via PILOT if folks want New Haven to take on ALL the affordable housing to "protect the character" of their towns."



"I'd much rather see New Haven build a ton of new market rate housing to grow the tax base and add vibrancy to under developed spots, especially near the train stations."


Almost 1/3 of New Haven's housing is affordable housing and that is just too much. It's not fair. Stamford on the other hand has north Stamford where the wealhty live to balance out the town.
They want Norwalk and Stamford for the rich South Norwalk is changing.
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Old 08-21-2021, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Drove through New Haven yesterday and there’s so much new construction. A bunch between hospital and train station, where I think the ultimate goal is to fill in that whole area. The massive projects in Wooster Square are almost done. And another big phase on Audubon. There were other smaller ones too. That city will easily add another 5,000 residents. Most of these projects are market rate, and “luxury”.

Downtown had more commercial vacancies than I’d like to see, but Westville and East Rock/Upper State have good occupancy. I think post pandemic downtown will fill those vacancies. A new Warby Parker store was under construction, across from Lululemon and Patagonia. A sure sign of continued gentrification.
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Old 08-21-2021, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Was recently in New Haven and couldn't believe the construction. I had a six week summer job there in college in the 90s and it was dead then. Visited periodically over the years, have some friends at Yale, and never seen it like this.

New Haven seems like a more interesting city than Stamford or Hartford but damn hard to get to. I flew in and out of Boston where I have family and took Amtrak each way. Few years back, I tried to get there from JFK and it took over three hours. I know there's new air service starting, but the inaccessibility is the biggest barrier to the city's growth.
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Old 08-21-2021, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Was recently in New Haven and couldn't believe the construction. I had a six week summer job there in college in the 90s and it was dead then. Visited periodically over the years, have some friends at Yale, and never seen it like this.

New Haven seems like a more interesting city than Stamford or Hartford but damn hard to get to. I flew in and out of Boston where I have family and took Amtrak each way. Few years back, I tried to get there from JFK and it took over three hours. I know there's new air service starting, but the inaccessibility is the biggest barrier to the city's growth.
I hear ya on airport accessibility, which is now starting to get some attention. BDL/Hartford have historically been a bit adversarial about New Haven expanding its airport (glad Lamont and Blumenthal are now giving the greenlight to Tweed expansion - political leadership was lacking in the past from the State/Feds). The East Side Access project in NYC will help better connect Metro North to LIRR --> JFK so hopeful things to come.

Otherwise, New Haven is very well connected from a freeway, commuter/regional rail perspective (one of the best in the country being along the NE corridor and connected to Amtrak + a NYC commuter rail namesake line - "New Haven Line" into the gorgeous Grand Central Terminal).

The transport connections along with the lower (but rising) cost of living between NY and Boston, very strong cultural sector, cheaper starting costs for biotech start ups, walkability, and Yale are fueling a lot of the growth Downtown and adjacent areas like East Rock and Wooster Square especially.

If the city and state make smart investments, I can see New Haven taking full advantage of this new distributed or hybrid/remote work world for knowledge workers.

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Old 08-21-2021, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Hiatus
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Stamford is already putting apartments on the upper portion of High Ridge Road. Condos went in close to the Parkway in the area I lived in near Westhill HS on Long Ridge Road. Stamford's population can explode. The section between Bulls Head and the Parkway is seeing growth it never had. Every time I go to Stamford it seems there are condos going in OUTSIDE of downtown in the higher zoning. The areas in Stamford that have houses in 1/4 and 1/2 acre lots are seeing drastic change too....not just downtown.

The other cities in CT can't do that.....they don't have the space like Stamford and the bordering towns won't budge on their zoning......except for maybe Trumbull. We are putting the condos in near the mall and the entire mall area was changed to mixed-use so it can have apartments on top of businesses. Trumbull changed the zoning on and near lower Main Street too....not just at the mall.
Room to grow in Stamford? Everytime I'm in Stamford it feels like the world is closing in on it's so clausterphobic. People and structures are falling all over each other.
Stamford isn't bordered by towns, it's bordered by cities, congested ones like Darien. Overflowing. Why do you want population to explode? you can't move around as it is now. Forget what Yogi said, CT is crowded and everybody still wants to go there. Do yourself a favor up in Branford for retirement - stay there, don't go anywhere. Forget Sunday pasta down at cousin Vinny's in Stamford unless you want sit through snarls and standstills through 11 crowded cities on the SW coastline.
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Old 08-21-2021, 09:34 PM
 
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Was recently in New Haven and couldn't believe the construction. I had a six week summer job there in college in the 90s and it was dead then. Visited periodically over the years, have some friends at Yale, and never seen it like this.

New Haven seems like a more interesting city than Stamford or Hartford but damn hard to get to. I flew in and out of Boston where I have family and took Amtrak each way. Few years back, I tried to get there from JFK and it took over three hours. I know there's new air service starting, but the inaccessibility is the biggest barrier to the city's growth.
Tweed is the key component. You expand and upgrade that then sky's the limit for New Haven. It instantaneosly becomes CT's premier major city destination, there's no denying it.
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Old 08-21-2021, 09:54 PM
 
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Tweed is the key component. You expand and upgrade that then sky's the limit for New Haven. It instantaneosly becomes CT's premier major city destination, there's no denying it.
Tweed expansion talk has been around many decades now. It will not occur. You do not get anywhere trying to expand an airport that is too close to existing neighborhoods. In any state.

I do agree New Haven is limited by a lack of a true airport, but so be it. It can survive w/o one.
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Old 08-22-2021, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Stamford is unofficial CT biggest city it will take title from Bridgeport between 2026 and 2028. New Haven will see population boom as well it might tie with Bridgeport for population.
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