Cruiser's Bill of Rights Proposed (europe, Carnival)
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Under the proposal from Schumer, cruise ships would have to be equipped with backup power generators and their operators would have to maintain sanitary conditions in the event of delays.
The bill would force ships to have medical personnel on board to handle emergencies. I know there are often doctors on board, but perhaps this is not a mandate? Also, I read that at times any old doctor is just offered free passage if he or she will act as the shipboard doctor for the trip.
The bill would force a refund for all passengers if a cruise is aborted.
Under the proposal from Schumer, cruise ships would have to be equipped with backup power generators and their operators would have to maintain sanitary conditions in the event of delays.
The bill would force ships to have medical personnel on board to handle emergencies. I know there are often doctors on board, but perhaps this is not a mandate? Also, I read that at times any old doctor is just offered free passage if he or she will act as the shipboard doctor for the trip.
The bill would force a refund for all passengers if a cruise is aborted.
This bill will go nowhere fast. As for doctors, I have cruised every mass marketed cruise line there is, over a period of more than 30 years and have never been on a ship without a doctor.
This bill will go nowhere fast. As for doctors, I have cruised every mass marketed cruise line there is, over a period of more than 30 years and have never been on a ship without a doctor.
Yes. I thought that sometimes a doctor is offered free passage for service to fulfill some obligation to have a doctor on board.
I also copied the exact words 'medical personnel on board to handle emergencies' because perhaps the issue is not that there were no doctors on board at all, but not enough to handle emergencies?
There is ALWAYS a doctor on board. They don't just take some random doctor who wants a free cruise, the ships doctor is an officer on board and like other crew members, does a 3-9 month contract, then a few months off, then back on board.
I've sailed on both large and small ships, they all have had doctors. The only ships that don't are the European River Cruises, because they are never more than a few minutes from shore where an ambulance can be met to take an ailing person to hospital.
Yes. I thought that sometimes a doctor is offered free passage for service to fulfill some obligation to have a doctor on board.
I also copied the exact words 'medical personnel on board to handle emergencies' because perhaps the issue is not that there were no doctors on board at all, but not enough to handle emergencies?
No, I am referring to doctors that are contracted to serve on the ship for a period of time, just like the staff and crew members, not just any doctor. As for handling emergancies: most medical centers on ships will never be staffed or furnished to cover true emergancies. That is why it is always recommended for people to carry insurance. In a true emergancy usually passengers are air lifted.
There is ALWAYS a doctor on board. They don't just take some random doctor who wants a free cruise, the ships doctor is an officer on board and like other crew members, does a 3-9 month contract, then a few months off, then back on board.
I've sailed on both large and small ships, they all have had doctors. The only ships that don't are the European River Cruises, because they are never more than a few minutes from shore where an ambulance can be met to take an ailing person to hospital.
Have you ever even been on a cruise?
Well, I read a book about the industry by a guy who worked on cruise ships and he said that they did do that, that the doctors were just random doctors, not tested for their expertise, and were sometimes just people who wanted free passage. You have to realize that the laws governing cruise ships are probably very sketchy and next to having none. He also mentioned instances that he saw in which people should have been helicoptered out to a land based hospital but were not (for cost considerations, I think) and other cases where bad medical decisions were made by the doctor that resulted in bad things happening to the patient.
It was some time ago, but when you think of it, these companies are like any other, all they want is profits. If there are no or few laws regulating them, that is what they'll do. If it were not that way you'd find them competing on grounds of safety and great on board medical facilities, wouldn't you? Why do you think they are based in some small island country somewhere and not in a modern Western nation? Financial reasons.
A friend of mine heard from a bartender who once went on a cruise that a doctor once operated on a passenger and accidentally removed the guys appendix when he was just in to get sea sick medicine, or something like that.
A friend of mine heard from a bartender who once went on a cruise that a doctor once operated on a passenger and accidentally removed the guys appendix when he was just in to get sea sick medicine, or something like that.
Well, I read a book about the industry by a guy who worked on cruise ships and he said that they did do that, that the doctors were just random doctors, not tested for their expertise, and were sometimes just people who wanted free passage. You have to realize that the laws governing cruise ships are probably very sketchy and next to having none. He also mentioned instances that he saw in which people should have been helicoptered out to a land based hospital but were not (for cost considerations, I think) and other cases where bad medical decisions were made by the doctor that resulted in bad things happening to the patient.
It was some time ago, but when you think of it, these companies are like any other, all they want is profits. If there are no or few laws regulating them, that is what they'll do. If it were not that way you'd find them competing on grounds of safety and great on board medical facilities, wouldn't you? Why do you think they are based in some small island country somewhere and not in a modern Western nation? Financial reasons.
You are horribly misinformed. Whoever wrote that book either did so 40 years ago, or didn't know what they were talking about. Considering the helicopter ride is billed to the person who takes it (hence travel insurance with medical evacuation is critical) that would have no bearing. If anything, ship doctors err in the side of caution.
The CDC has laws that govern all ships that come into American ports, and having a doctor on board is one of them.
Well, I read a book about the industry by a guy who worked on cruise ships and he said that they did do that, that the doctors were just random doctors, not tested for their expertise, and were sometimes just people who wanted free passage. You have to realize that the laws governing cruise ships are probably very sketchy and next to having none. He also mentioned instances that he saw in which people should have been helicoptered out to a land based hospital but were not (for cost considerations, I think) and other cases where bad medical decisions were made by the doctor that resulted in bad things happening to the patient.
It was some time ago, but when you think of it, these companies are like any other, all they want is profits. If there are no or few laws regulating them, that is what they'll do. If it were not that way you'd find them competing on grounds of safety and great on board medical facilities, wouldn't you? Why do you think they are based in some small island country somewhere and not in a modern Western nation? Financial reasons.
I am pretty sure I know what book you are talking about and even though he worked for Carnival no less. It, eventually was pretty sell documented that his writing was more fiction than non fiction or should we say, he wrote it the way he saw it, but not the way others in the industry did or do. obviously he wrote it to sell, so much of what he would have to say is going to be exaggerated for shock value.
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