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Old 03-02-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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I dont know about the trial but it used to be that ignorance was no excuse for breaking the law.

So she didn't know she was taking the wrong pill and was ignorant that she was drugged while driving on the road, well she still broke the law unknowingly or not. She was tried and the jury let her off for their own reasoning.

Guess that is our legal system and hope the same measure of understanding is applied in other non fatal non wreck instances.
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:24 PM
 
Location: The Wild Wild West
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There are always certain high society people and politicians that the laws don't seem to apply to...
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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I heard Kennedy say on the Today show yesterday, that in New York, all cases like this are prosecuted, as opposed to the DA picking and choosing the ones that have merit.

She was offered a plea, but if she had taken it, she would not have been able to go out of the country for 10 years. If you are convicted in a foreign country, you can't re enter the US for 10 years either.

The most important reason why she wanted a jury trial was to bring to light this policy in NY, which is bogging down the court system there.
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Old 03-04-2014, 06:14 AM
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Location: The New England part of Ohio
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It isn't like she was found with a needle hanging out of her arm, she had a "trace" of a sleeping pill in her system. Hell, if I was checked a lot of mornings heading to work I would have traces of Nyquil in my system from the night before too.

I think the lady had a lot of class, attributing her success in court to great Lawyers and her saying not everyone would have that opportunity. It also isn't like she killed anyone.

Don

I thought the same. She might have been found guilty had she had an inexperienced public defender. She as much as said that, in attributing her victory to her fine legal team.

I think her "fame" in a double edged sword when it comes to favor with a jury. Also, she has no history of bad behavior. As with many women of her age, (and mine) she is on several medications and she confuses the two.

Why is everyone so punitive and out for vengeance?

Kennedy also said that the experience has served to underscore the entrenched inequality in our justice system, and she has vowed to work to change that.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Kennedy also said that the experience has served to underscore the entrenched inequality in our justice system, and she has vowed to work to change that.

I suppose I could say that at least she'll be working at something.

Was that supposed to be funny? That Kennedys are claiming that they were treated unfairly at the hands of our justice system?

No one's saying that this particular instance was a felony, but she's the one who fought it. Her cousin pleaded guilty about ten years ago to much the same thing.

Then there's her brother who got away with manhandling two nurses a couple of years ago, something which was caught on videotape. Oh, and let's not forget Joe Jr. (not papa Joe, the rumrunner and stock market manipulator, but another one of Ethel and RFK's brood) who nearly broke the back of his own brother (now dead due to drugs), a passenger in a jeep he was recklessly driving as a teen, and crashed. That same accident left another passenger in the jeep, a teen-aged girl, a paraplegic. As per usual, the Kennedy's paid off the family...er....paid for her ongoing rehabilitation.

Dare I mention Chappaquiddick? In which Ted got a friggin license suspension for letting a young woman drown in the car he'd been driving? She lay gasping for breath while he and his attorney cousin (him, he quickly notified) sat 15 feet away, with Ted Kennedy crying "What am I gonna do?" with his head in his hands. All while the poor kid was trying to find an air pocket to gasp for breath, proven when she was found the next day, in rigor mortis, in a seated postion with her hands grasping the seat of the car, and her head facing upwards to breathe.

The Kennedy curse might better be described as the curse they've put on other people's lives. No one family's gotten away with more crud than they have, and it appears to be affecting every generation. The current ones are nothing more than a bunch of trust-fund babies who wouldn't know how to act with a real job.

American royalty? Bullbleep.
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Old 03-04-2014, 05:09 PM
 
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I suppose I could say that at least she'll be working at something.

Was that supposed to be funny? That Kennedys are claiming that they were treated unfairly at the hands of our justice system?

No one's saying that this particular instance was a felony, but she's the one who fought it. Her cousin pleaded guilty about ten years ago to much the same thing.

Then there's her brother who got away with manhandling two nurses a couple of years ago, something which was caught on videotape. Oh, and let's not forget Joe Jr. (not papa Joe, the rumrunner and stock market manipulator, but another one of Ethel and RFK's brood) who nearly broke the back of his own brother (now dead due to drugs), a passenger in a jeep he was recklessly driving as a teen, and crashed. That same accident left another passenger in the jeep, a teen-aged girl, a paraplegic. As per usual, the Kennedy's paid off the family...er....paid for her ongoing rehabilitation.

Dare I mention Chappaquiddick? In which Ted got a friggin license suspension for letting a young woman drown in the car he'd been driving? She lay gasping for breath while he and his attorney cousin (him, he quickly notified) sat 15 feet away, with Ted Kennedy crying "What am I gonna do?" with his head in his hands. All while the poor kid was trying to find an air pocket to gasp for breath, proven when she was found the next day, in rigor mortis, in a seated postion with her hands grasping the seat of the car, and her head facing upwards to breathe.

The Kennedy curse might better be described as the curse they've put on other people's lives.
No one family's gotten away with more crud than they have, and it appears to be affecting every generation. The current ones are nothing more than a bunch of trust-fund babies who wouldn't know how to act with a real job.

American royalty? Bullbleep.

I disagree with this. First of all, what other members of the Kennedy family did in the past has absolutely nothing to do with this case, and she should not be punished for what her brother or anyone else did. Second, why shouldn't she fight it? If it were me, I would hire a lawyer too, who wouldn't, who cold afford it?

3rd, I think the Kennedy's for the most part have devoted their lives to public service, and IMO the crimes of a few many years ago do not detract from the good they have done our country.
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Old 03-05-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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I disagree with this. First of all, what other members of the Kennedy family did in the past has absolutely nothing to do with this case, and she should not be punished for what her brother or anyone else did. Second, why shouldn't she fight it? If it were me, I would hire a lawyer too, who wouldn't, who cold afford it?

3rd, I think the Kennedy's for the most part have devoted their lives to public service, and IMO the crimes of a few many years ago do not detract from the good they have done our country.

There's nothing to agree/disagree with, since what I posted are facts...and they're facts that directly counter the quoted poster's assertion that the Kennedys are somehow treated unfairly in the criminal justice system; they're not.

As far as their "public service" goes, sure, they're at the taxpayer trough with their political jobs/appointments. They're politicians. Oh, and let's not forget..."activists". You try that for a while and see how long that puts food on your table. That's another thing I said--that they wouldn't know what to do if they had to get a real job.

Yep. Trust fund babies....I'm sick of the whole lot of them.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:29 PM
 
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There's nothing to agree/disagree with, since what I posted are facts...and they're facts that directly counter the quoted poster's assertion that the Kennedys are somehow treated unfairly in the criminal justice system; they're not.

As far as their "public service" goes, sure, they're at the taxpayer trough with their political jobs/appointments. They're politicians. Oh, and let's not forget..."activists". You try that for a while and see how long that puts food on your table. That's another thing I said--that they wouldn't know what to do if they had to get a real job.

Yep. Trust fund babies....I'm sick of the whole lot of them.
Alright, let's just agree to disagree.
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:34 AM
 
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I disagree with this. First of all, what other members of the Kennedy family did in the past has absolutely nothing to do with this case, and she should not be punished for what her brother or anyone else did. Second, why shouldn't she fight it? If it were me, I would hire a lawyer too, who wouldn't, who cold afford it?

3rd, I think the Kennedy's for the most part have devoted their lives to public service, and IMO the crimes of a few many years ago do not detract from the good they have done our country.
Is she innocent?

I don't know. Expensive lawyers can come up with some pretty creative excuses for their.mega rich, mega powerful, paying clients.

But I don't KNOW.
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Old 03-06-2014, 09:20 AM
 
Location: NH
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3rd, I think the Kennedy's for the most part have devoted their lives to public service, and IMO the crimes of a few many years ago do not detract from the good they have done our country.
What a joke...."the good they have done"

A self-serving elitist class family. And the only reason they had/have political pull is because of LIV followers
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