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View Poll Results: If there was an Ebola vaccine, would you take it?
Yes, I'd be one of the first to get a vaccine. Better safe than sorry. 41 11.20%
If it came to my region, then yes, I'd get vaccinated. 67 18.31%
Too soon, but I wouldn't rule it out in the future. 192 52.46%
Rush-to-market vaccines are dangerous. No way would I get a vaccine. 77 21.04%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 366. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-07-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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The reason these people have been infected wearing PPE and/or hazmat suits is because of improper handling of the equipment when they are removing it.
This proves we are not at all prepared to deal with this if even these health workers fail to keep their own selves safe.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Wandering in the Dothraki sea
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This whole thing feels eerily similar to AIDS hysteria.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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How does their getting infected via wearing hazmat suits indicate it's not only transmitted via bodily fluids? Hazmat suits protect from airborne transmission too. Let's not fall over the edge of reality here. The reason these people have been infected wearing PPE and/or hazmat suits is because of improper handling of the equipment when they are removing it.
Maybe it could be that these people don't work with level 4 biohazards every day ?

Do you think the CDC lets just any health professional into their level 4 labs ?

No, the greater health community has been thrown into this with very little prep and training.
My sister is a nurse. She doesn't deal with level 4 biohazards every day like the CDC people do.
She said if ebola breaks out here she is quitting.
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:03 PM
 
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It supposedly began in Africa in bats. What if there were mice in the Dallas apt. where the infected chap lived? Could they be infected?
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:07 PM
 
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Given how widespread the epidemic in West Africa has become, its spread beyond Africa was inevitable.

That doesn't change the fact that in order for the disease to spread it needs to sustain an R-Zero of >1. In the crowded slums of the cities in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, it is doing so for obvious reasons: wholly inadequate medical infrastructures, dysfunctional civil hygiene systems, and cultural practices anathema to the containment of the virus. But given that even the vastly inferior African medical infrastructure has managed to contain over 95% of historical Ebola outbreaks, you have to be a complete idiot to think that the medical infrastructures of Spain, U.S., etc., can not and will not do so.

PS - If you don't even know what R-Zero is, then educate yourself. For God's sake, shut off your TV and quit getting your information from those cable news shows - you're getting dumber by the minute.
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Please tell us you're being sarcastic. You can't possibly be serious. Do you truly think the republicans created ebola just to win an election? The republicans are the ones who will get votes due to ebola. Nah, I know you don't believe it. That's why your post is so perplexing.
Anyone who thinks that Big Government actually operates for the protection of the foresighted and the responsible is fooling him/herself. Big Brother is enabled by the fears of the impressionable and the desire for unrealistic levels of security, That is the stock-in-trade of the Democrats and their captive clientele of ne'er-do-wells and favor-seekers. (And admittedly, what's left of the Republicans isn't far behind.)
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:27 PM
 
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What is to prevent a terrorist from getting themselves infected and (this is going to be a bit graphic) going to say a Dallas Cowboys game with a bag of their own feces. Then wiping it with their hand all over stair rails throughout the stadium?

I guess if I were a suicidal terrorist, that's what I would consider. Yeah, it's gross but these folks don't exactly seem worried about "getting their hands dirty"....so to speak.

That was one of the first things I thought of when the idea of terrorism/Ebola came to mind.

That's pretty darned scary if you ask me
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:29 PM
 
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I posted this in another thread. Not sure if something like this has been discussed or not but this scenario scares the crap out of me.

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What is to prevent a terrorist from getting themselves infected and (this is going to be a bit graphic) going to say a Dallas Cowboys game with a bag of their own feces. Then wiping it with their hand all over stair rails throughout the stadium?

I guess if I were a suicidal terrorist, that's what I would consider. Yeah, it's gross but these folks don't exactly seem worried about "getting their hands dirty"....so to speak.

That was one of the first things I thought of when the idea of terrorism/Ebola came to mind.

That's pretty darned scary if you ask me
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:31 PM
 
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I posted this in another thread. Not sure if something like this has been discussed or not but this scenario cares the crap out of me.

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What is to prevent a terrorist from getting themselves infected and (this is going to be a bit graphic) going to say a Dallas Cowboys game with a bag of their own feces. Then wiping it with their hand all over stair rails throughout the stadium?

I guess if I were a suicidal terrorist, that's what I would consider. Yeah, it's gross but these folks don't exactly seem worried about "getting their hands dirty"....so to speak.

That was one of the first things I thought of when the idea of terrorism/Ebola came to mind.

That's pretty darned scary if you ask me
As long as they don't do it at a Saints game, I'm good.











Just kidding.
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Suzy, check out this link too. I found it in the other reddit link.

RegardsFromDolan comments on Nurse 'infected with Ebola' in Spain

It has links to pictures of the facilities in Spain. Two particular pictures show the interior of airplanes used to transport American ebola patients to the US and Spanish ebola patients to Spain. Lots of pictures showing transporters not wearing proper protective equipment. It's clear that Spain was not ready to handle this.

And there's 2,845 comments in this second link if you look at the top of the page on the left to access them.
Afraid to go there! That sounds like a black hole for computer time!

If the patient is isolated in a "cocoon" I suspect it is really not necessary for people who are not actually taking care of the patient to suit up.
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