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View Poll Results: If there was an Ebola vaccine, would you take it?
Yes, I'd be one of the first to get a vaccine. Better safe than sorry. 41 11.20%
If it came to my region, then yes, I'd get vaccinated. 67 18.31%
Too soon, but I wouldn't rule it out in the future. 192 52.46%
Rush-to-market vaccines are dangerous. No way would I get a vaccine. 77 21.04%
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:04 AM
 
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Not to beat a dead horse, but I am wondering why there is so much secrecy about the unnamed patient in Atlanta. We have heard every detail about Dr. Brantley, the woman aid worker, Thomas Duncan and now Nina Pham. Why nothing about the unidentified patient being treated since September 9? I've scoured the internet and found so little it is puzzling. What gives?
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:07 AM
 
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[quote=suzy_q2010;36730323]There is no evidence that Ebola is spread by mosquitoes, and the animals in which it occurs just don't live in the US, except in zoos.

Q&As on Transmission | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC

"There is no evidence that mosquitos or other insects can transmit Ebola virus. Only mammals (for example, humans, bats, monkeys and apes) have shown the ability to spread and become infected with Ebola virus."




Can pets get or spread Ebola? - CNN.com
Seems dogs can catch it, not show signs and potential infect others with it though waste. This is new territory and we don't really know what animals can or cannot spread it in the U.S. They say they can try and test the dogs for it, but, how long they have to wait to test is unknown. So, if a mosquito bites an infected dog, and then a person within close range I don't see how it won't infect them.

If antelope can get it in Africa, then what about our cattle? Thousands in close range to each other, it could be horrid.

There are no studies on these issues, so it's not only primates who can catch and spread Ebola. There are a lot of holes we've left open to study, and now that America has Ebola, we better get to work because we know nothing.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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Not to beat a dead horse, but I am wondering why there is so much secrecy about the unnamed patient in Atlanta. We have heard every detail about Dr. Brantley, the woman aid worker, Thomas Duncan and now Nina Pham. Why nothing about the unidentified patient being treated since September 9? I've scoured the internet and found so little it is puzzling. What gives?
First of all, HIPAA prevents the hospital from releasing information.

Second of all, if I had Ebola I would know that if I survived the disease there would likely be a certain stigma that would attach to me from thereafter. Some would shun me, even if it had been months or years since I recovered from the disease. Judging from the paranoia I've seen among some of the posts on these threads, I wouldn't want anyone to know that I had had Ebola either.

Third, what exactly do you want to know? What do you need to know? What I have is enough information for me.

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Old 10-14-2014, 08:13 AM
 
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It wouldn't be the first time military was used for experimentation.
I think the next testing ground for the new vaccine will be on them for sure. As usual there is a secret larger picture we can not see at the moment.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:13 AM
 
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Not to beat a dead horse, but I am wondering why there is so much secrecy about the unnamed patient in Atlanta. We have heard every detail about Dr. Brantley, the woman aid worker, Thomas Duncan and now Nina Pham. Why nothing about the unidentified patient being treated since September 9? I've scoured the internet and found so little it is puzzling. What gives?

This is all I could find...

Sept. 9, 2014 – An unnamed American Ebola patient arrives at Emory University Hospital for treatment. This patient had been working for the World Health Organization in Sierra Leone. The patient was still there as of Oct. 13, 2014.

Ebola in America: Timeline of a Deadly Virus
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:15 AM
 
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First of all, HIPAA prevents the hospital from releasing information.

Second of all, if I had Ebola I would know that if I survived the disease there would likely be a certain stigma that would attach to me from thereafter. Some would shun me, even if it had been months or years since I recovered from the disease. Judging from the paranoia I've seen among some of the posts on these threads, I wouldn't want anyone to know that I had had Ebola either.

Third, what exactly do you want to know? What do you need to know? We know she was a nurse involved in treating Duncan. Do you want a lengthy biography? What I have is enough information for me.
I agree that this person simply may not want his or her name released, but this is not the same nurse who treated Thomas Duncan. This person must have been flown in from somewhere else.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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First of all, HIPAA prevents the hospital from releasing information.

Second of all, if I had Ebola I would know that if I survived the disease there would likely be a certain stigma that would attach to me from thereafter. Some would shun me, even if it had been months or years since I recovered from the disease. Judging from the paranoia I've seen among some of the posts on these threads, I wouldn't want anyone to know that I had had Ebola either.

Third, what exactly do you want to know? What do you need to know? We know she was a nurse involved in treating Duncan. Do you want a lengthy biography? What I have is enough information for me.
Yeah, like the paranoia that Ebola could come to our shores, spread despite our wonderfully clean and responsible medical system? I think paranoia seems to be the only forewarning we are actually getting these days. My days of ignoring the paranoid are over. Seems they are more on target than the pros this time.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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So what is the solution? Stop all overseas travel and close all our borders, including by car from Canada, and of course Mexico. To REALLY prevent the spread inside the US, since people have died here also, stop all domestic travel too. Call out the National Guard to seal off state borders. Nobody can leave or enter another state by car also.

Next? Demand that the CDC get off their dead -----, and invent a vaccine IMMEDIATELY. Demand that this vaccine be given to every American man, woman, and child. If they refuse to comply, throw them in a quarantine camp, or maybe shoot them, and burn their bodies. It is for the good of this country and will save the lives of millions of people!!!!!!!

Science Ficton? Don't think there are people who wouldn't think this is great idea and solution? Watch some old movies. It has been thought up the in past and with the premise of some uncontrollable disease spreading.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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Once you have had Ebola you are immune to it. In epidemic areas they are recruiting survivors to work in roles where exposure risk is the highest.



Yeah? Who?
Oh, I am not going to name names. Read back over the posts.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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First of all, HIPAA prevents the hospital from releasing information.

Second of all, if I had Ebola I would know that if I survived the disease there would likely be a certain stigma that would attach to me from thereafter. Some would shun me, even if it had been months or years since I recovered from the disease. Judging from the paranoia I've seen among some of the posts on these threads, I wouldn't want anyone to know that I had had Ebola either.

Third, what exactly do you want to know? What do you need to know? We know she was a nurse involved in treating Duncan. Do you want a lengthy biography? What I have is enough information for me.


This proves that information is being suppressed for some reason. I am NOT talking about Nina Pham, the nurse who treated Duncan. The person I am speaking about, is the 4th person who was transported to the Atlanta hospital on September 9.

As far as privacy, why is it that names and details have been released for everyone, including Ms. Pham (who requested total privacy) but not this other mystery patient?

And no, I don't need a lengthy biography. Just the same basic information that didn't seem to be withheld for the other Ebola victims.
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