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Old 01-21-2015, 07:30 AM
 
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This was a very interesting idea.

However, IAB (internal affairs) is still part of the police force and should be on the same pension system. If they found wrong doing and the city had to settle, the IAB officer that found the wrong doing would take a hit to his retirement. If the cops cooperating with IAB offered evidence that lead to the findings against their coworker, they would lose out on their pension.

You know that blue line? The concept that cops stand together? If this were to go into effect, that blue line would become impossible to cross. Yes, they would clean up some of their own trash, but when something really did go wrong, it would take executive orders to force any real investigation rather than a cover up.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:11 AM
 
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Its not a new idea and its not a workable idea.

Disregarding the THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE MILITARY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT YOU ARE HEROES!!! authoritarian-worshiping droolers who completely ignore the systemic dysfunction that exists, there is another side to this coin.

The Ghetto Lottery, where morons sue cops over trivialities and/or events of their own provocation and because juries in places in Chicago, New York, etc are sympathetic, they win bunk cases.

We need to strive towards ACCOUNTABILITY in the profession which we have available to us in the form of uniform cameras. Matter of fact, we should conduct some sort of public opinion census of police officers and instantly fire any officer who opposes uniform cameras, since THAT is going to be the guy who is out ruining the reputation of the officers who do things the right way.

You can go read on police blogs, the whining and lamenting about the impact that body cameras will have on 'proactive policing' (code for 'abusive policing'). Body cameras (and appropriate footage management policy) are the answer, not attacking pensions. Cops who insist that their narrative is worth more than video footage are dangerous liars, 100% of the time. Honest cops seem to love cameras since they save their bacon from false accusations.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:18 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Nice idea.

Totally unconstitutional under the 5th amendment.
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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I propose this: how about every unprovoked attack on an officer be paid by taxpayers the amount of $10K to be paid directly to the PD where the offence occurred. Perhaps thats the sort of counter-offer we need to propose so citizens will think twice about supporting their unruly neighbors. Instead of backing up criminals when they get whipped by police, they will instead start reporting their criminal activities.
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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I have a better solution, everyone follows the laws and doesn't break any, no speeding etc. What would the stations do without a large revenue stream?
Civil forfeiture.

They'd just steal your money.
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