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Because this has more to do with control then it does to do with preventing disease. If you can get the people on board with forced vaccinations after just a small outbreak of measles, well, you can get them on board with just about anything. If we lose the ability to decide what medical interventions we will and will not partake in, we lose some of our inherent freedom. There are plenty of things that are far more dangerous then measles but the media has hyped people into a frenzy causing some to call for the jailing of those who don't vax and for mandatory vaccinations. The pro vaccination extreme is a scary bunch.
"Slippery Slope" is a logical fallacy. We're not going to go after your guns, Terri. Seriously.
"Slippery Slope" is a logical fallacy. We're not going to go after your guns, Terri. Seriously.
Refusal to acknowledge that the slippery slope does in fact exist is a logical fallacy. INo one said anything about guns. Having the freedom to be in control of our own bodies is an inherent human right. I don't think the government should be allowed to impose on that right.
Refusal to acknowledge that the slippery slope does in fact exist is a logical fallacy. INo one said anything about guns. Having the freedom to be in control of our own bodies is an inherent human right. I don't think the government should be allowed to impose on that right.
Seeing a "slippery slope" everywhere isn't smart either. Vaccination isn't new. Compulsory vaccination laws aren't new. What I'm really seeing out of some people here is a desire to reverse a series of laws that worked to the great benefit of the people of this country for decades.
People can scream about freedom until they turn blue. Sick people have far less freedom than healthy people do.
Seeing a "slippery slope" everywhere isn't smart either. Vaccination isn't new. Compulsory vaccination laws aren't new. What I'm really seeing out of some people here is a desire to reverse a series of laws that worked to the great benefit of the people of this country for decades.
People can scream about freedom until they turn blue. Sick people have far less freedom than healthy people do.
Exactly! And MissTerri, you did say "just about anything"(below). Guns do have a public health aspect to them. And people bring up the first amendment. Did you know there was not ONE religious exemption to immunizations in Colorado schools last year? Nary a one.
That you don't understand this isn't a little insignificant outbreak doesn't mean it is. The following is a very good article with quotes from the Massachusetts director of epidemiology and immunization. Mass. readies for measles, as Disneyland outbreak spreads - Metro - The Boston Globe " “I think we’re all worried,” said Dr. Lawrence Madoff, director of the epidemiology and immunization division at the state Department of Public Health. “It would not surprise me to see a case in Massachusetts.” "
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Because this has more to do with control then it does to do with preventing disease. If you can get the people on board with forced vaccinations after just a small outbreak of measles, well, you can get them on board with just about anything. If we lose the ability to decide what medical interventions we will and will not partake in, we lose some of our inherent freedom. There are plenty of things that are far more dangerous then measles but the media has hyped people into a frenzy causing some to call for the jailing of those who don't vax and for mandatory vaccinations. The pro vaccination extreme is a scary bunch.
Seeing a "slippery slope" everywhere isn't smart either. Vaccination isn't new. Compulsory vaccination laws aren't new. What I'm really seeing out of some people here is a desire to reverse a series of laws that worked to the great benefit of the people of this country for decades.
People can scream about freedom until they turn blue. Sick people have far less freedom than healthy people do.
Who said anything about seeing it everywhere? I just don't find it wise to force medical interventions on people against their will.
Actually, vaccination is offered to exposed people who are not immune. See "post exposure prophylaxis"...
You actually did not respond to any point that I made. I made no commentary on its effectiveness. I said that you are not supposed to wait until exposed to get vaccinated. It's a stupid move that puts not only your kids in danger, but other kids in danger too.
.... I don't think the government should be allowed to impose on that right.
Possibly, but the public DOES have a right to restrict your freedom if you or your kids if they pose a danger to the health of society.
I don't care if you want to put your life or rather the life of your kids in danger. But government has no obligation to support you in the matter. Hence, no access to public schools, public facilities, etc. Any any private facility has the right to lock you out as well.
And if you and your kids get sick because you were negligent and didn't get them vaccinated, then no insurance either. No reason for other rate payers to cover this negligence.
.... I just don't find it wise to force medical interventions on people against their will.
The sad thing about this, is that nobody should have to "force" people to be responsible instead of being so self centered they lose all common sense about it.
Possibly, but the public DOES have a right to restrict your freedom if you or your kids if they pose a danger to the health of society.
I don't care if you want to put your life or rather the life of your kids in danger. But government has no obligation to support you in the matter. Hence, no access to public schools, public facilities, etc. Any any private facility has the right to lock you out as well.
And if you and your kids get sick because you were negligent and didn't get them vaccinated, then no insurance either. No reason for other rate payers to cover this negligence.
Which vaccinations would you say are necessary for all in order to eliminate any potential danger to society? Which ones do you think people should be forced to have due to the threat to the public at large? Which vaccines should be optional?
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