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Old 02-28-2015, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Kansas city
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University of Minnesota Bans Use of Race in Crime Suspect Descriptions | PUNDIT PRESS
The University of Minnesota has banned the use of race when describing crime suspects when only a “limited” amount of information is known about them. Specifically, if the race of the suspect is known, but some other identifiable traits are not, the college will not release the race of the criminal.

Well, it's only my opinion and can somebody tell me, they really think that they will "destroy" racial discrimination by this way?
More censorship at college but as long as it helps blacks, liberals tell us it's ok?
And also, every time when somebody comitted a crime, main description of criminals was his skin color.
Does it mean that now, when thwy will call 911 they will answer like:
1 - Describe thief please, what's his skin color, his clothes?
2 - Skin color? Hmm... I can't tell this, sorry!
What do you think guys?
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Old 02-28-2015, 09:04 AM
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Wrongful convictions happen daily, and I'm not sure if the U of M knows something about it or not, but they might know that race plays a large part in the wrongful convictions.
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Old 02-28-2015, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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University of Minnesota Bans Use of Race in Crime Suspect Descriptions | PUNDIT PRESS
The University of Minnesota has banned the use of race when describing crime suspects when only a “limited” amount of information is known about them. Specifically, if the race of the suspect is known, but some other identifiable traits are not, the college will not release the race of the criminal.

Well, it's only my opinion and can somebody tell me, they really think that they will "destroy" racial discrimination by this way?
More censorship at college but as long as it helps blacks, liberals tell us it's ok?
And also, every time when somebody comitted a crime, main description of criminals was his skin color.
Does it mean that now, when thwy will call 911 they will answer like:
1 - Describe thief please, what's his skin color, his clothes?
2 - Skin color? Hmm... I can't tell this, sorry!
What do you think guys?
It means, if you want to give a description of a suspect, then give a real description. "Black Male" doesn't cut it. Example:

"Armed robbery suspect description: white male, black hoodie, wearing a grey mask, 6'4", slim build, possibly carrying brown bag."

"Armed robbery suspect description: black male."


Do you see a difference there? You never hear "Armed robbery suspect description: white male." People would laugh at that description. But for some reason "black male" is considered a good enough description by many people.

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Old 02-28-2015, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Montana
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Well, let's take this to it's logical conclusion and ban gender descriptions too! All suspects are now equal. "someone committed a crime. Be on the look out for them!"
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Old 02-28-2015, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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University of Minnesota Bans Use of Race in Crime Suspect Descriptions | PUNDIT PRESS
The University of Minnesota has banned the use of race when describing crime suspects when only a “limited” amount of information is known about them. Specifically, if the race of the suspect is known, but some other identifiable traits are not, the college will not release the race of the criminal.

Well, it's only my opinion and can somebody tell me, they really think that they will "destroy" racial discrimination by this way?
More censorship at college but as long as it helps blacks, liberals tell us it's ok?
And also, every time when somebody comitted a crime, main description of criminals was his skin color.
Does it mean that now, when thwy will call 911 they will answer like:
1 - Describe thief please, what's his skin color, his clothes?
2 - Skin color? Hmm... I can't tell this, sorry!
What do you think guys?
another great example of how on the scales of justice, with the University of Minnesota on one end and DeenThomas on the other, inexplicably tilt down on the side opposite DeenThomas
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Old 02-28-2015, 09:57 AM
 
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this world is flat out pathetic.
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Old 02-28-2015, 10:08 AM
 
Location: southern kansas
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How can the University of Minnesota ban anything pertaining to crime reporting (?), or does this apply only to crimes that happen on campus?
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Old 02-28-2015, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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How can the University of Minnesota ban anything pertaining to crime reporting (?), or does this apply only to crimes that happen on campus?
The university has a policy of delivering crime alerts to students via email for serious crimes which involve physical confrontation: sexual assault, physical assault, robbery, etc. This applies to crimes which occur on campus, and to crimes in adjacent neighborhoods which involve students as victims.

While racism is a very real concern, this decision by The University of Minnesota is simply bad policy. Crime alerts are useless without complete descriptions. The race of an offender is a valid part of that description. The university will presumably continue to include sex and other physical characteristics in their descriptions. This is an illegitimate solution to an unrelated and complex problem.
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Old 02-28-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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It means, if you want to give a description of a suspect, then give a real description. "Black Male" doesn't cut it. Example:

"Armed robbery suspect description: white male, black hoodie, wearing a grey mask, 6'4", slim build, possibly carrying brown bag."

"Armed robbery suspect description: black male."


Do you see a difference there? You never hear "Armed robbery suspect description: white male." People would laugh at that description. But for some reason "black male" is considered a good enough description by many people.
Yes, generic descriptions that only give a suspects race, with no other unique, identifying characteristics, can , hardly, be used as search criteria. I would think, that's just common sense. Are the cops just going to arrest every "black male" they see.based on such a report as being discussed? Last I checked, much more is required in a description than JUST a suspects race.

However, "black male, 6'0-6'2, bald, tattoo of a (whatever) on back of head, long scar on left side of face, gotee beard, walks with a limp" etc...THAT is a proper description. I don't think that LE operates based on descriptions that only list a suspects race. However, when combined with a list of other unique features, I believe race is certainly a factor to list. Sorta goes without say...
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Old 02-28-2015, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Yes, generic descriptions that only give a suspects race, with no other unique, identifying characteristics, can , hardly, be used as search criteria. I would think, that's just common sense. Are the cops just going to arrest every "black male" they see.based on such a report as being discussed? Last I checked, much more is required in a description than JUST a suspects race.

However, "black male, 6'0-6'2, bald, tattoo of a (whatever) on back of head, long scar on left side of face, gotee beard, walks with a limp" etc...THAT is a proper description. I don't think that LE operates based on descriptions that only list a suspects race. However, when combined with a list of other unique features, I believe race is certainly a factor to list. Sorta goes without say...
Well, in that case they could release the information. This would apply only when the race of the suspect is known, but no other identifiable traits are known. As far as I'm concerned if you know only the race of the suspect, then you have no description, and thats the way it should be reported. This is a very good rule.
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