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The only reason he was fired and the department walked away from him is because the video evidence is so damning that you would look like a complete racist to support him.
Can anyone blame a person of color for running from the police? Even when you give up and lay on the ground you're not always free from police brutality.
This guy gets down on the ground, hands out and surrendering but 1 officer runs up and kicks him in the head just before the other officer kicks him right in the nuts. Then they proceed to beat the crap out of him for several minutes straight as 5 or 6 other officers run up and join in the s
enseless beating. None of the cops who aren't beating him do anything to stop it and none of the officers seem concerned about the news helicopter flying above. There is a widespread culture of lawlessness and utter contempt for minorities at work here.
Great idea to tell people to run from the police, I'm sure it will always end well. Risk the lives of millions because of a few isolated incidents, that's the responsible way to do it.
You have to weigh the benefits. Speeding ticket or run from the police? The choice is yours.
and you post a video to encourage people to run so they might possibly get beat up?
How about you teach people to surrender when they are caught?
Great idea to tell people to run from the police, I'm sure it will always end well. Risk the lives of millions because of a few isolated incidents, that's the responsible way to do it.
You have to weigh the benefits. Speeding ticket or run from the police? The choice is yours.
and you post a video to encourage people to run so they might possibly get beat up?
How about you teach people to surrender when they are caught?
Maybe he watched too much Cops, where they chase you through alleys, over fences, into the woods, bring in dogs and helicopters, but never ever shoot you in the back.
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Originally Posted by Ken S.
Maybe, but it certainly never would make the news or spark any protests. If we ever want to create a truly equal society free of violence - especially gun violence - we need to start really addressing the problem by focusing on the people who are really causing the problem. Instead the issue of (gun) violence has been hijacked by certain special interest groups to push their very specific agenda. Hence the problem will never be solved.
Where did they family and people protest and when? I have not ssen it. Why, because his boss, the Chief of Police and the towns Mayor and D.A. did the absolute correct thing and condemned the coward. Stop spreading dumb rhetoric please....
You keep saying "fight" like they were doing an Ali vs Holyfield. Where are the visible injuries on Slager? Did he mention in his report that Scott assaulted him? Do you see on the video Scott assaulting him? And don't call a push an assault: did you see Scott assaulting Slager? Did they get on the ground and tussle? I don't think so because trigger happy Slager wouldve shot him in that instance.
This is not a video game. Theyre not going to physically fight, then get off each other, stand off, then Scott run in the opposite direction. If they were physically fighting, Slager wouldve tried to shoot then, or when they got off each other, first thing Slager wouldve done was draw his gun. In the video he doesn't draw his gun until Scott is yards away.
Scott did not make the mistake to FIGHT. Slager made the mistake to think he WASNT being filmed and could get away with shooting Scott, moving the taser, then filing a FALSE report saying his life was in danger. After what happened in Ferguson, it reassured him even more that people would believe him.
"The cop killed him and thats why hes in jail"...well DUH? Where else would he be? Disneyland? Youre basically saying "I don't have to blame the cop because hes in jail." You dont condemn him for trying to frame Scott, for filing a false report, or for unnecessarily shooting his gun. You keep blaming Scott for "leaving his car." It wasn't his fault. He wasn't the despicable one. Was he in the wrong too? Yes. But his actions did not justify him losing his life.
And it doesn't matter how much life you lived: the fact of the matter is YOU KNOW ITS WRONG. 50 year olds are generally smarter and wiser than 16 years olds yes, but no matter whether your 16, 25, 33, 50, or 86: you know doing something illegal, then running once your caught, is not going to do you any good. The 16 year old shoplifter is just as responsible as 50 year old Scott, and if you feel its Scott's fault for getting shot, then you have to feel it was the 16 year old girls fault for getting shot two. You keep trying to make this loophole through by saying the "older the wiser", but this has nothing to do with taxes, or mortage, how to take care of a kid. It has to do with knowing right from wrong, and BOTH ages know.
He was wrong. End of story. His own MOTHER has offered an apology to the dead man's family. His bosses and co-workers have spoke out against this officer; yet some on this forum continue to feel the need to continue victim blaming.
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The don't make sense only because you don't want them to.
For every murder victim their is a if, but in the final analysis the ifs are irrelevant.
This is where your incessant argument falls apart, Mr. Walker was just as much a victim of crime as anyone one in any one of my analogies, that fact is why Mr. Slager has been arrested, and charged with committing a crime against him.
Now a jury may very well chose to blame Mr. Slager as you seem to blame him and ignore the fact that his prior actions make him as responsible for his own murder as you seem to insist. But that wouldn't be a decision based upon the fact that Mr. Scott was the victim of an unlawful killing.
I'm with you and I do not think a jury would find that his killing was justified. That said, juries are unpredictable but . . the video. That's all they will need.
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Originally Posted by Mack Knife
Yes.
There are over 900,000 sworn law enforcement officers in the USA.
That is close to a million.
Of those 900,000 how many contacts with the public are there each day? Lets be conservative and say 3-5 contacts per day. That would be close to 3 million contacts per day.
Of those 3 million contacts each and every day, how many times are we hearing about these contacts resulting in alleged wrongdoing on the part of the officer? Today, if there is wrong doing, it is making the news so it isn't like a lot of it goes on and isn't being reported these days.
Running from the police only does one thing. What is does not accomplish are the following:
1. Get away with a high percentage of success.
2. Avoid justice.
3. Prove innocence
4. Mitigate whatever crime was committed prior to running.
What running does accomplish:
1. Causing the police to give chase.
2. Escalate the situation
3. Add another charge to whatever charges already exist
4. Increase the potential for additional penalties at trial.
Yes, running is a bad idea.
What no one wants to admit, especially those who seem to think no one ever does anything wrong and therefore every police action is wrong...
is the fact that in almost all cases, the person running committed a crime or is wanted as a suspect in a criminal offense or has a warrant for their arrest and very rarely does a person who is completely innocent run from the police.
And? Automatic death penalty then for having a warrant? Committing a crime? We're all good with that?
Judging from the media responses, I don't think we are. This is not Afghanistan.
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Emphasis added. Aside from the topic at hand, those comments are a real piece of work.
Nobody has anyway to know if 4 out of 6 of your tail lights were out and you only found out because you went to a jiffy lube?
Where did you learn to drive? You're supposed to check your lights! More important, people like you who drive around with their cars in disrepair or for who knows what reason can;t even take care of the safety features of their car are a danger to themselves but more important, a danger to everyone else on the road.
Using yourself as an example only demonstrated why some people shouldn't be allowed to own a car much less drive on on public roads.
Then we get to the child support comment. Here is how it works, if he is the father then he doesn't have a choice between putting a roof over his children's head or his own, his responsibility is to make sure his kids have the roof before he does. It is his responsibility to make sure his kids have food on the table. Obviously, you have no idea what child support means and that is real shame.
Some people.
I'm well aware of what child support is. If we start killing men because they fail to pay child support - then we are going to drastically reduce the male population and that goes for wealthy, white, Republican men too.
Broken taillight, failure to pay support ~ these do not warrant the death penalty in our society. No excuses for this officer's actions. None.
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News flash....the black man was told to stay in his vehicle, he did not obey and fled. Driving a Mercedes Benz, of course, failed to pay Child Support, so he ran. Running from personal responsibility & Disobeying the law enforcement = a dead beat man that should have been arrested and put in jail. His car auctioned to pay for his kids well being. I'm sure his ex-wife feels real bad about his death.
You're good with the death penalty then? For failing to obey or failing to pay support?
What's the next step here? Being required to show our papers after dark?
I hate to just speak for jim9251, but I would guess that if the man had wrestled the cop's gun away and shot and killed the officer, jim9251 would probably be calling for the man to be charged and go before a jury. I'm guessing he wouldn't call for a lynch mob.
Do you think he'd be calling for mob justice or for a jury to decide his fate?
News flash....the black man was told to stay in his vehicle, he did not obey and fled. Driving a Mercedes Benz, of course, failed to pay Child Support, so he ran. Running from personal responsibility & Disobeying the law enforcement = a dead beat man that should have been arrested and put in jail. His car auctioned to pay for his kids well being. I'm sure his ex-wife feels real bad about his death.
and this is a perfect example of how our system is broken....I'm not saying he deserved to be shot, but our judicial systems are not working...
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