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A Watsonville man is expected in court Tuesday to face charges of assault to commit rape and indecent exposure after his arrest Friday in the Apple Hill neighborhood. It's not the first time 27-year-old Joseph Louis Roisman has been arrested and charged with a sex-related crime.
As far as I can tell most of the people in these stings end up doing some jailtime and have to register as sex offenders. Some of them already had sex charges and ended up violating their parole. The bigger a spotlight that we shine on these people the better. I don't have the slightest sympathy for child abusers and these folks weren't forced into anything by anyone.
They weren't forced to strike up a conversation with someone that they thought was 12 or 13 years old, they weren't forced into graphic sexual chat sessions or sending naked photos of themselves, they definitely weren't forced into driving, sometimes many hours, to a home where they expected to find a young child all alone in the hopes of a sexual encounter. At several points along the process these individuals could have simply stopped and refused to continue.
And no the show doesnt require a release as it is a news program, once you leave your home you give up your right to privacy. You have no expectation of privacy out in public or at someone else's home. Because it is a news program, it fits a different standard than say something like Cops which is seen strictly as an entertainment program and you had police going into other people's homes, at which point releases became necessary.
The thing of is he is not law enforcement officers.
Let the law enforcement do their jobs .
You must not have watched the show. The majority of the stings were done with the cooperation of law enforcement. The police were waiting to arrest these individuals right outside the door. He was there merely to document the kinds of individuals that show up, and you saw people from all walks of life, young people, old people, military soldiers, doctors, lawyers, police officers, a rabbi, computer programmers, poor people, rich people, the point was quite clear that there was no single profile. One guy even got caught twice, showing up at two different strings. One guy brought his 5 year old son with him.
Regardless of how much some try to portray these men as victims of a surveillance society or as people who were victims of entrapment, these were all adult men who made the decision to drive or take a bus for in some cases, as many as seven or eight hours to go and see someone that they thought was an underage boy or girl. They were all adults who traveled long distances to see someone that they thought was a child. Not sure how that is even remotely defensible.
Nobody forced them into it, they made the choice to take that trip, in addition many brought condoms, lubricant, sexual toys and other items which made it clear that they were coming by for something a little more intense than a glass of sweet tea and a stale brownie.
i.e. From the Reddit AMA where the man himself was answering questions about the show.
Could you cite the actual comments, because with just some quick research, from three of the stings that I looked at, there was an over 90% conviction rate.
You must not have watched the show. The majority of the stings were done with the cooperation of law enforcement. The police were waiting to arrest these individuals right outside the door. He was there merely to document the kinds of individuals that show up, and you saw people from all walks of life, young people, old people, military soldiers, doctors, lawyers, police officers, a rabbi, computer programmers, poor people, rich people, the point was quite clear that there was no single profile. One guy even got caught twice, showing up at two different strings. One guy brought his 5 year old son with him.
Regardless of how much some try to portray these men as victims of a surveillance society or as people who were victims of entrapment, these were all adult men who made the decision to drive or take a bus for in some cases, as many as seven or eight hours to go and see someone that they thought was an underage boy or girl. They were all adults who traveled long distances to see someone that they thought was a child. Not sure how that is even remotely defensible.
Nobody forced them into it, they made the choice to take that trip, in addition many brought condoms, lubricant, sexual toys and other items which made it clear that they were coming by for something a little more intense than a glass of sweet tea and a stale brownie.
I feel like just he is making money off perverts.
If he really wanted to help, he can do it via law or law enforcement or activist.
Could you cite the actual comments, because with just some quick research, from three of the stings that I looked at, there was an over 90% conviction rate.
No. The link is posted above. You can read through it if you like. He did answer most of the softball questions, but nothing really of any substance.
I'm sure he wants the money, but who knows why else he wants to do it? Maybe his wife or his sister or someone else close was molested when they were a kid.
Whatever his reasons, I do believe the show has done a great service just in raising awareness about the problem. It's not limited to just a few perverts like some of us would like to believe. And many of them don't look like perverts, or have pervert jobs.
If just a few parents start thinking "I don't care that this guy is the principal or our pastor or LEO, or trusted neighbor, I have a bad feeling about how interested he is in MY kid. I'm gonna pay closer attention, talk to the kid, talk to my kid's friend's parents to see if they feel anything is wrong, etc etc etc." It will be worth it to save even just a few kids from that trauma.
That reddit was telling enough. Quick scan through it:
Does predator have to sign release before show can use it? - Appears to be no answer.
Any evidence that it reduced number of predators out there? - Appears to be no answer.
Commentary that many of the cases that went to court got thrown out.
I HATE reddit. Talk about hard to navigate. But I didn't see CH say anything about cases thrown out. All I saw was:
[–]OfficialChrisHansen[S] 340 points 1 day ago
1.) There was only one investigation where some of the cases were not prosecuted. And that resulted from a disagreement between a police department and a prosecutor's office. The reality is some of the people who were in the investigation were arrested in similar stings later. And that former prosecutors said that every one of those cases could have been taken to court, should the prosecutor have chosen to do so.
I HATE reddit. Talk about hard to navigate. But I didn't see CH say anything about cases thrown out. All I saw was:
[–]OfficialChrisHansen[S] 340 points 1 day ago
1.) There was only one investigation where some of the cases were not prosecuted. And that resulted from a disagreement between a police department and a prosecutor's office. The reality is some of the people who were in the investigation were arrested in similar stings later. And that former prosecutors said that every one of those cases could have been taken to court, should the prosecutor have chosen to do so.
What you posted was his response the question, "weren't most of the cases thrown out?" If you read carefully he didn't answer that question. Of course they were prosecuted, but that is meaningless. Were they found guilty? He didn't answer that.
It's not limited to just a few perverts like some of us would like to believe. And many of them don't look like perverts, or have pervert jobs.
If just a few parents start thinking "I don't care that this guy is the principal or our pastor or LEO, or trusted neighbor, I have a bad feeling about how interested he is in MY kid. I'm gonna pay closer attention, talk to the kid, talk to my kid's friend's parents to see if they feel anything is wrong, etc etc etc." It will be worth it to save even just a few kids from that trauma.
1) That's just it...it is so widespread, that is was eye-opening to see how much so. I have to ask you, how do perverts "look" and what are "pervert jobs"? (Lol) As were shown, there were so many types, one could be any male, anyplace, anywhere, at any time. ((shudder))
2) Addressing your second paragraph, what you describe is a different situation, still involving predators, but is regarding younger children, with parents having to be vigilant of odd behavior of those around their kids who they may know.
In the TCAP series, the focus is regarding a segment of society preying on teens through the Internet. A way that had cropped up - who knows how long before this - for adult men to locate vulnerable teens online and pretend to also be their age, in order to meet through online chatting. (It is so weird to me, to see the wide range of men capable of having a compulsion such as this).
So, it seems it was wise to have developed this, since who knows how many teens had been in this kind of situation prior to there having been a sting operation, which I believe had begun through undercover specialists before there being those wanting to share this process with the public.
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