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Old 04-15-2015, 02:01 PM
 
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It doesn't mean "you get out of jail."
The criminal has likely been out of jail for quite some time. The sentencing process can take months to a year, during which the criminal can roam around town pretty much freely, without needing to be in jail for more than the few hours immediately following the arrest.

It's a ridiculous system that allows criminals to commit even MORE crime as they wait for the SA and judge to make decisions.
Our judicial system is very flawed. This is why there are so many criminals in this country.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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The article doesn't give any insight as to what happened in the courtroom, other than the judge's views on race relations.It also does not explain how the outcome came about.
There very well could have been a plea deal (and it's very likely, considering it appears he was only convicted of robbery, and not of the many other crimes that come with a home invasion.)

Of course it explains everything. You keep trying to steer the ship of course, when its obvious where it was going and went. Its obvious there was no plea deal, since the DA did not agree with just probation. A Judge has recommended jail times for specified class crimes, and usually stays in those guide lines. The Prosecution likely expected that, since they don't do sentencing. The Criminal was probably given the chance to plead guilty to Robbery, which would have given him a few years in Jail, instead of filing additional charges and letting it go to a Jury. From that point its up to the Judge, since there was no Jury. The Judge took advantage of that and played his racist cards, giving an armed criminal a slap on the wrist. All the excuses and Deflection can't change that. The Judge needs to be replaced. His type of Justice is a threat to all the Citizens in his area.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Our judicial system is very flawed. This is why there are so many criminals in this country.

In this case, its not the system, but the Judge who is flawed. Everyone did their job up to that point. The mistake was to put trust in the Judge to do the right thing. He is the "ONLY" one to blame here.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Fairfield of the Ohio
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I'd bet this Ky judge if friends with former OH judge Tracey Hunter. They share the same thought process apparently.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Judging by their charges, I still have to assume Wallace got a plea deal from the prosecution.

Of course, that's obvious. No other charges where filed. That means his deal was to plead guilty to "Robbery" and the other charges would be dropped, lessoning the time if found guilty of all. That happens a lot, because the single charge usually is the most serious and brings the most time for a single crime. Its not Rocket science.

What went wrong with this, is that the assumed sentencing based on the normal recommendation structure was not followed, and the Judge used that loophole to free the Criminal, which was not the Prosecutions intent. The Judge used his racial prejudice, which is all quite apparent, as the pieces fell into place. He should be disbarred and removed.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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You really believe that everything negative said about a black person leads to claims of racism and/or riots???

People should be gathering and protesting this injustice in front of the Courthouse and at the Judges home. He is a threat to the public.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:35 PM
 
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Apparently you're not familiar with how the legal system works.

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.... than a cop who kill? I don't know about you, but I'd rather get scolded than shot at 8 times in the back.

Mick
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Of course, that's obvious. No other charges where filed. That means his deal was to plead guilty to "Robbery" and the other charges would be dropped, lessoning the time if found guilty of all. That happens a lot, because the single charge usually is the most serious and brings the most time for a single crime. Its not Rocket science.

What went wrong with this, is that the assumed sentencing based on the normal recommendation structure was not followed, and the Judge used that loophole to free the Criminal, which was not the Prosecutions intent. The Judge used his racial prejudice, which is all quite apparent, as the pieces fell into place. He should be disbarred and removed.
You don't think the original charge of BURGLARY 1ST DEGREE-FORCED ENTRY
is a more serious charge than the Class C robbery he plead guilty to?
The charge(s) he plead guilty to were not the most serious, and do not carry mandatory prison terms, unlike the aforementioned one, which his friend was convicted of.
Whoever chose to omit the Burglary with forced entry conviction made the huge mistake here.
The judge was wrong, yes, but the blame also falls on the DA's office for not probing for that conviction, which does carry a minimum 2 year sentence in prison in the state (found out after doing some quick online research.)
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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USA Today has an article on this case at
Judge slams victims for tot's 'black men' fear

I know a bunch of people have guessed that perhaps the lenient sentence was some sort of plea bargain. Apparently that wasn't the case. The judge was lenient because because the armed robber is popular and good at sports.
What a ridiculous reason to let an armed criminal out on probation. Wallace has been out of high school for a decade, who cares if he is a good athlete? Athletes do not commit crimes? It sounds as if the judge has a man crush on Wallace or is being swayed by popularity. Meanwhile, he condemns the victim in court which essentially slanders them as racists and drags them through the pain all over again. Judge Stevens has no business carrying out his personal attacks on citizens who have broken no laws while letting off class b felony offenders with probation and time served. It seems like Judge Stevens is stuck in high school mentality and needs take a deep and honest look at his biases.
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: USA
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What a ridiculous reason to let an armed criminal out on probation. Wallace has been out of high school for a decade, who cares if he is a good athlete? Athletes do not commit crimes? It sounds as if the judge has a man crush on Wallace or is being swayed by popularity. Meanwhile, he condemns the victim in court which essentially slanders them as racists and drags them through the pain all over again. Judge Stevens has no business carrying out his personal attacks on citizens who have broken no laws while letting off class b felony offenders with probation and time served. It seems like Judge Stevens is stuck in high school mentality and needs take a deep and honest look at his biases.
"who cares if he is a good athlete? "
Maybe Judge Stevens is a big athletic Supporter
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