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When we drive we are putting a lot of people at risk. Accidents can and do happen. To think that an accident would only hurt myself or my family is not accurate.
Do you support drunk driving and speeding laws even though they interfere with choice?
Do you support drunk driving and speeding laws even though they interfere with choice?
Yes. Neither involve injecting something into my body or the bodies of my children. In other words, they are not intrusive and the benefit outweighs the risk.
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SOOO, according to statistics - I hope you've spent 100 times as many hours keeping your kid away from rain as you do on vaccines.
The odds are MORE likely that your kid will be a BILLIONAIRE (with a B) than they are to have a severe response to a vaccine, and remember they will be at the doctor's office if that occurred so the odds of it being "life altering" are very very small.
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Originally Posted by MissTerri
The pertussis vaccine has issues. One of which is that there is evidence that the bacterium has mutated which makes the vaccine ineffective. This information has been known for some time and was even on the CDC site a few years ago but for some reason the info is gone from their site. It's also not a long lasting vaccine and many adults don't get boosters. How did your friend's baby catch pertussis from the five year old? Was it a friend of her family? How did she know he was unvaccinated?
I can't answer for the poster about the baby, but I can tell you that in this and most states, pertussis is a reportable disease and each case is investigated by the health department. Contacts are traced and contacted.
The pertussis vaccine has issues. One of which is that there is evidence that the bacterium has mutated which makes the vaccine ineffective. This information has been known for some time and was even on the CDC site a few years ago but for some reason the info is gone from their site. It's also not a long lasting vaccine and many adults don't get boosters. How did your friend's baby catch pertussis from the five year old? Was it a friend of her family? How did she know he was unvaccinated?
The CDC traced it to the child at their doctor's office. The CDC also confirmed that the child had not been vaccinated. My friend's baby was too young to be vaccinated.
I agree that more adults need to get boosters (I have). But the whopping cough vaccine has now been combined with the tetanus vaccine, so more people will get it. (Many more people get tetanus boosters due to injury). But you are contradicting yourself. In one breath you say the vaccine is ineffective, but in another you say adults should get boosters. So which is it?
The CDC traced it to the child at their doctor's office. The CDC also confirmed that the child had not been vaccinated. My friend's baby was too young to be vaccinated.
I agree that more adults need to get boosters (I have). But the whopping cough vaccine has now been combined with the tetanus vaccine, so more people will get it. (Many more people get tetanus boosters due to injury). But you are contradicting yourself. In one breath you say the vaccine is ineffective, but in another you say adults should get boosters. So which is it?
I don't think I'm contradicting myself by noting that there is more then just one issue with the pertussis vaccine. There are legitimate concerns that it is not very effective due to mutations and there are legitimate concerns about how long it lasts and there are legitimate concerns about adults not getting boosters. None of those things will be fixed by forcing a small group to vaccinate. Not everyone who falls into the category of "anti-vaxxer" refuses all vaccines. Some may forgo certain vaccines and get others. Of those vaccines, Pertussis is one that a lot of people who don't stick to the CDC schedule do get. I can't prove this but anecdotally from talking with several doctors and several people who have vaccinated selectively, this has been my observation.
If you think that vaccines are risk free, think again.
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