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I will also agree with that story that the transparency of the Charleston police and their quick response in the Walter Scott death likely played a part. Basically got the video, released it, fired the officer, charged him with murder all within 2 days.
I think it is this^. In Baltimore the leader of the police union came out and supported the police involved
and basically said the police are well trained and can do no wrong (all before the investigation was done).
Excluding lynchings, and anti-lynching riots, and included University of Mississippi (1962); Lexington, NC (1963); Tampa (1967); Orangeburg, SC (1968); Louisville, KT (1968); Miami (1980, 89,); Atlanta, GA (1992); St, Petersburg, FL (1996) and a few more I could dig up, no. It isn't a northern thing.
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Somebody doesn't know much about history. There were race riots all over the South in the 1960s. Both black and white..
So glad you couldn't be bothered to read more than the topic title.
But.. If you like.. Look at the 20th and 21st century list of Riots..
Geographically.. More in the north or south? Let's just look at 1967 and the riots listed there (There were more than those, but they were the major ones)
Northern - Detroit, Boston, Buffalo, Newark, Plainfield, Cairo, Detroit (again), New York, Rochester, Pontiac, Flint, Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, Toledo, Englewood, Lima, Cambridge, Saginaw, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Madison
That.. Is significant. And, really.. We could make that 21-2, because Florida is a beast unto itself.. The south doesn't consider Florida part of the south.. And Tuscon.. Doesn't fit either category, but.. More southern than northern. Houston.. An argument could be made, but.. Really, Houston is 'the south'. Sticking with the 'line through the middle'.. Were there any California riots.. I don't see either North or South claiming them.
Or.. Let's just look at the ones since 2010.
There are 2 that can be considered southern.. Both college campuses.. UT and James Madison
8 in northern cities.. 6 if you discount Maryland as 'northern'.. 2 (of the 8) which were college campuses..
7 in the west.. Which I consider anything west of the rockies.
Draw a line through the middle of the continental US and rioting happens far less frequently in the south.
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Baltimore and Ferguson are both southern cities...
Depends on your definition.. Mason-Dixon line.. You are correct. Civil war.. MD is unquestionably northern. Geographic midline of the continental US? MD is northern. That line, which I tend to agree with, also known as the sweet tea line (You order sweet tea north of Richmond, you're taking a gamble) generally runs through Richmond, VA and is the North/South border. NoVA I would not consider part of the south. Technically.. MD would better be considered "Mid-Atlantic", but..
Missouri is basically the same.. Technically, aliasfinn is correct.. They're really midwest.. Civil war, they're south.. It, like VA, is divided.. The southern 3rd or so of the state is 'the south' while the rest is 'the north'.. At least according to the magic 'mid-point' line. St Louis and Kansas City would fall into the 'north' portion..
I think it is this^. In Baltimore the leader of the police union came out and supported the police involved
and basically said the police are well trained and can do no wrong (all before the investigation was done).
Yes, but the mayor of Baltimore also said in a press conference that the police "let those who wished to destroy have the opportunity to do so..." (or something nearly verbatim).
Excluding lynchings, and anti-lynching riots, and included University of Mississippi (1962); Lexington, NC (1963); Tampa (1967); Orangeburg, SC (1968); Louisville, KT (1968); Miami (1980, 89,); Atlanta, GA (1992); St, Petersburg, FL (1996) and a few more I could dig up, no. It isn't a northern thing.
You haven't named any that have happened in the 21st century and most of those happened ~1/2 century ago.
Rioting seems to be a fair-weather phenomenon. I'll bet if it had been 40 degrees and raining last Monday night, Baltimore would have slept peacefully.
I lived outside Baltimore prior to coming to Colorado, and I attended church downtown every week. Baltimore is most assuredly NOT a northern city, and to suggest as much is absurd. Someone is sorely lacking in knowledge of American history.
I don't know anyone who considers Baltimore "southern". It seems to have a lot more in common with the northeast than the south. If anything it may be mid Atlantic if you don't want to call it northern but it's certainly not a southern city. Virginia is pretty much the upper limit of the "South", geographically, politically, and culturally. Baltimore isn't even laid out and constructed like the major cities in the south. Maryland has more in common today with the other Mid-Atlantic states of NJ, NY, and PA, than it does with VA, TN, or NC.
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