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Old 09-24-2015, 06:55 PM
 
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Mass nudity?

We showered after gym when I was in HS, and there was no "mass nudity." Gimmeabreak.
It depends if there's privacy or not. Some gyms have private stalls. However the open shower is based on the prison/millitary model. The millitary and prison uses as nudity as a form of humiliation to break men down. That's in the American context were nudity is associated with homosexuality. In Europe were there less of a stigma I doubt people would find it as humilating but American associated forced nudity as a form of humilation.
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Old 09-24-2015, 08:32 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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It depends if there's privacy or not. Some gyms have private stalls. However the open shower is based on the prison/millitary model. The millitary and prison uses as nudity as a form of humiliation to break men down. That's in the American context were nudity is associated with homosexuality. In Europe were there less of a stigma I doubt people would find it as humilating but American associated forced nudity as a form of humilation.
Did the other boys sting you with towels and make fun of you in gym class?

I've never heard of anyone, except a few people on CD, associate nudity with homosexuality. If nudity were more common and natural, we would have a lot less perverts. It starts with unhealthy attitudes about your body. If you associate nudity with humiliation, you need to look at what happened to you in your past.

BTW, my high school once encouraged boys to swim nude in swimming class. Many boys were humiliated because they didn't own and couldn't afford to buy swim trunks. They didn't want boys in the pool with cutoffs.
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Old 09-26-2015, 08:01 PM
 
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Did the other boys sting you with towels and make fun of you in gym class?

I've never heard of anyone, except a few people on CD, associate nudity with homosexuality. If nudity were more common and natural, we would have a lot less perverts. It starts with unhealthy attitudes about your body. If you associate nudity with humiliation, you need to look at what happened to you in your past.

BTW, my high school once encouraged boys to swim nude in swimming class. Many boys were humiliated because they didn't own and couldn't afford to buy swim trunks. They didn't want boys in the pool with cutoffs.
I never had to shower in HS but always associated public showering with a prison like environment were homosexuality is a threat. At my HS the showers were abandoned and unused. Luckily I had athletics at the end of the day but it must be awful having it in the morning and going so day without showering.
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Old 09-27-2015, 03:54 AM
 
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We had an awful ugly fat assistant football that was a woman (looked like a bulldog). Every time a player would get hurt, she would run on the field and take care of the injured player. She did the normal things and then she would shove her hands in the hurt guy's pants and rummage around. I never understood why that was required. I never played too so I saw this event occur every time. I remember mumbling to one of my friends,..."if I play, I better not get injured."
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Old 09-28-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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I never had to shower in HS but always associated public showering with a prison like environment were homosexuality is a threat. At my HS the showers were abandoned and unused. Luckily I had athletics at the end of the day but it must be awful having it in the morning and going so day without showering.
Not sure what you mean by "athletics," but I had swimming class from 7th through 12th grade. There were signs that you must shower before entering the pool and we always showered afterwards to rinse the chlorine off. I can assure you that no one "associated showering with a prison like environment were homosexuality is a threat."

I have three children and understand that showering after gym class ended sometime between the 1970s and the end of the century. My kids played sports and never showered after practices or games. I have taught junior high swimming and students still shower before and after. The problem is getting them to leave the warm shower and enter the not so warm pool.
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Old 10-03-2015, 05:15 PM
 
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Not sure what you mean by "athletics," but I had swimming class from 7th through 12th grade. There were signs that you must shower before entering the pool and we always showered afterwards to rinse the chlorine off. I can assure you that no one "associated showering with a prison like environment were homosexuality is a threat."

I have three children and understand that showering after gym class ended sometime between the 1970s and the end of the century. My kids played sports and never showered after practices or games. I have taught junior high swimming and students still shower before and after. The problem is getting them to leave the warm shower and enter the not so warm pool.
PE in middle school and cross country and track in HS.
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Old 10-03-2015, 05:17 PM
 
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Did the other boys sting you with towels and make fun of you in gym class?

I've never heard of anyone, except a few people on CD, associate nudity with homosexuality. If nudity were more common and natural, we would have a lot less perverts. It starts with unhealthy attitudes about your body. If you associate nudity with humiliation, you need to look at what happened to you in your past.

BTW, my high school once encouraged boys to swim nude in swimming class. Many boys were humiliated because they didn't own and couldn't afford to buy swim trunks. They didn't want boys in the pool with cutoffs.
It's the propaganda of American Culture. American culture equates nudity with homosexual and than uses it ass a tool of oppresion. They stoped in HS's due to the whole hysterial about pedophilia but it's still used in prison and the millitary were there is little privacy.
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:33 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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It's the propaganda of American Culture. American culture equates nudity with homosexual and than uses it ass a tool of oppresion. They stoped in HS's due to the whole hysterial about pedophilia but it's still used in prison and the millitary were there is little privacy.
No, American culture does not equate nudity with homosexuality. Homosexuals are a diestinct minority despite the publicity with gay marriage. I spent time in the Army and never encountered homosexuality or oppression related to it. I don't understand where you are getting these bizarre ideas.
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Moscow
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It's the propaganda of American Culture. American culture equates nudity with homosexual and than uses it ass a tool of oppresion. They stoped in HS's due to the whole hysterial about pedophilia but it's still used in prison and the millitary were there is little privacy.
I always thought I had to take a shower after gym cuz I stunk. I thought the only thing oppressive going on was my smell when I didn't shower. I'm glad Dave came along to open my eyes.

I never knew showering could leave me feeling so dirty!
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Old 10-04-2015, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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I never had to shower in HS but always associated public showering with a prison like environment where homosexuality is a threat.
That's not homosexuality. That's rape. It's called rape.
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