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Old 07-01-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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While there have been hate crimes against Mosques and Temples, this is about BLACK CHURCHES?
Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. However of the 6 churches pertinent to this topic, none have been due to hate crime. 3 were due to accident or mother nature, 2 appear to be crime related, and one is unknown though this church as apparently also been robbed several times.
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Old 07-01-2015, 05:30 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. However of the 6 churches pertinent to this topic, none have been due to hate crime. 3 were due to accident or mother nature, 2 appear to be crime related, and one is unknown though this church as apparently also been robbed several times.
Yawn...
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Old 07-01-2015, 05:43 PM
 
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Yawn...
Indeed. The facts sure took the wind out of that sail.
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Old 07-01-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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Maybe they'll show up at the KKK protest in SC.

Is it a coincidence that the KKK is in action and black churches in SC are burning? And more coincidentally, one is a church they burnt down once already.

They are also the ones waving that "not racist" confederate flag.
You do realize between 2007 and 2011 there was an average of over 1,700 structural church fires per year in the U.S.
It has already been reported that the church fire you reference was natural causes.
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Old 07-01-2015, 05:45 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. However of the 6 churches pertinent to this topic, none have been due to hate crime. 3 were due to accident or mother nature, 2 appear to be crime related, and one is unknown though this church as apparently also been robbed several times.
Even if those two were arson, it is still very unlikely that they were motivated by race. Only 12 percent of arsons are "vandalism" and an even smaller portion of those are race-based vandalism:

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publicatio....aspx?ID=84265

Most are burned for personal revenge. Other motives include insurance fraud. How many pages is this topic up to and how many churches were definitively burned by racists in the past 18 months? I count zero churches.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:43 AM
 
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Why would several black churches have congregations with members (either individually or as a group) who decided this week was a good time to burn down their church?
Blacks riot and burn down entire neighborhoods, what's the difference with burning down a single church?
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Old 07-02-2015, 05:38 AM
 
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What's that have to do with the fact that black churches are going up in flames almost every other night? I mean, aside from an attempt to distract from the glaringly obvious fact that black churches are being intentionally targeted by flailing away at the SLPC strawman?

Gee, look, another just last night:
South Carolina church fire: Mt. Zion AME church burns - CNN.com

So let me get this straight. You think church arsons are so common as to happen numerous times weekly. You also think it is statistically normal for them to all happen in the same part of the country (the South) and to all happen to that minority of churches that are black churches? Never taken a stats class, have you? (not that special academic instruction is necessary to see such an obvious an out of the ordinary trend)



By the way, the church that burned last night? It was opened in 1996, a year after... it was burned down by the KKK as part of a spate of burnings of black churches across the South in 1995. Let me guess - more coincidence, right?
Care to revisit these assumptions? Where are you people getting your agenda from?

Do you now understand how common church fires actually are and it is not automatically that they are being targeted. Sheeple are so gullible.
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:51 AM
 
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Well here's a news flash - it usually isn't a homeless guy trying to stay warm.

The thread is about BLACK CHURCHES that are being burned in record numbers.

While there have been hate crimes against Mosques and Temples, this is about BLACK CHURCHES
So, exactly how many black churches have been burned in the last 10 years and how many of those were arson and perpetrated over racism?

We'd love to see the numbers, so please share.
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Old 07-02-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Detroit
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The amount of racism perpetrated on this thread is ridiculous!! Someone, probably a white supremacist, is burning down black churches. The odds of eight black churches burning down by natural causes (electrical fire or lightning strike) since the Charleston shooting in the south is astronomically low. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Old 07-02-2015, 08:12 AM
 
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The amount of racism perpetrated on this thread is ridiculous!! Someone, probably a white supremacist, is burning down black churches. The odds of eight black churches burning down by natural causes (electrical fire or lightning strike) since the Charleston shooting in the south is astronomically low. Absolutely ridiculous.
69 posts in and you are not reading the information shared repeatedly. There have been an average of 1,700+ church structure fires every year. The odds are that a good percentage of them will be black churches. Many links have been provided with the results of the investigations and they do not back up your assumptions.
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