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OK, I will try to be civil here, but my blood boils in my American veins when I hear such a comment...
The idea that Independence Day is not "about the troops" is a slap in the face to the memory of the Continental Army which was a professional Army. The rate for a private was 6 2/3 Dollars a month. They may have started as farmers, but ended up as professional troops.
Please celebrate or not, as you see fit. That is your right that the American Military fought to give you. Just don't discount their part in making this a free country, and an Independent nation. Yes, this day celebrates a document, but where would America be without the Army? So you can make crass statements all you like. In fact I not only would, but have risked my life to allow you that freedom sir.
So the day may be about the document, that is fine, but if you discount or disparage the name of the U.S. Military, I will assert my freedom to call you on it. This is my America too, and while you are free to your opinion, sir, you may not rewrite history. That history is written in the blood of those who died to give you the right to be free, and spout off uneducated, and simply wrong information here.
Happy birthday America! And I for one will celebrate with a solemn regard for those who made it all possible. And yes, we also get Memorial Day and Veteran's Day. Is it too much to ask that we be respectful to the memory of those who made it all possible?
I suppose being ignorant of the actual history, and disrespectful to the great sacrifice of our Continental Army is something you take for granted. Now you know who to thank for that freedom.
Fine. Can we talk about the thousands and thousands of civilians who've fought for American freedom now?
I don't think anyone has fought for this nation's freedom since the War of Independance. Of course many have since fought in the national interest, which is certainly of great value.
I don't think anyone has fought for this nation's freedom since the War of Independance. Of course many have since fought in the national interest, which is certainly of great value.
I disagree.
We've had civilians fighting for freedom for women, children and minorities for decades. They continue to do so to this day.
We've had civilians fighting for freedom for women, children and minorities for decades. They continue to do so to this day.
That's true, but I meant fighting for national freedom against foreigners; our national freedom, our independence, hasn't been threatened since the success of our rebellion against Britain in 1783. Of course our national existence was threatened by the southern rebellion in 1861, thus the War of the Rebellion, but I see that as a different matter from national freedom being threatened.
Let us not forget the people who make sure our Constitution is still followed to this day. All of those "little things" add up to freedom on a national level.
Let us not forget the people who make sure our Constitution is still followed to this day. All of those "little things" add up to freedom on a national level.
Keep an even closer eye on those who want to destroy it.
4th of July is just another commercialized holiday in which people cook out, hang with friends, and then watch fireworks. Very few actually celebrate the true meaning of this holiday.
Excuse me, I am 100% decked out in American gear. This year I even had an American flag themed mason jar drinking cup that fits exactly one bottle of beer. I know the true meaning and I celebrate it proudly. Besides Christmas, July 4 is hands down my favorite holiday.
4th of July is just another commercialized holiday in which people cook out, hang with friends, and then watch fireworks. Very few actually celebrate the true meaning of this holiday.
I won't disagree with you about this, but it doesn't particularly bother me. Maybe those of us who ritually read the Declaration of Independence (and, yes, I do) can get together next year for the celebration and quietly nurse our drinks while pondering the meaning of what our nation's founders, including those who took up arms, accomplished. On second thought, I'll just read it myself, and then head out for the nearest fireworks show, maybe one on a military base for good measure, because that's a whole lot of fun, and I like to have fun. Seriously, folks, I love a good history lesson, I really do, but...FIREWORKS!
Well, Mack Knife, please tell me who it was that gave you that independence? Knowledge tells me that it was the patriots that fought and beat the British. In other words "the troops."
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On second thought, I'll just read it myself, and then head out for the nearest fireworks show, maybe one on a military base for good measure, because that's a whole lot of fun, and I like to have fun. Seriously, folks, I love a good history lesson, I really do, but...FIREWORKS! 
