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Old 08-10-2015, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Gotta love how companies roll out product for users to beta test.
This is an old an honored Microsoft practice from way back in the DOS systems. You never installed any version with an .0 or a .1 after it, and were wary of a .2 Much easier to do a real time, customer supplied test.

My computers stay at 7.
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Old 08-10-2015, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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This is an old an honored Microsoft practice from way back in the DOS systems. You never installed any version with an .0 or a .1 after it, and were wary of a .2 Much easier to do a real time, customer supplied test.

My computers stay at 7.
I agree that Microsoft does use its users for beta testing, albeit after extensive beta testing by volunteers. If they didn't, then users would be complaining about Microsoft not listening to the consumer. How many million computers are out there? All with different software from a variety of companies including the computer maker itself. All with slightly different physical set-ups. It would be impossible to expect it to work 100%.
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Old 08-10-2015, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I agree that Microsoft does use its users for beta testing, albeit after extensive beta testing by volunteers. If they didn't, then users would be complaining about Microsoft not listening to the consumer. How many million computers are out there? All with different software from a variety of companies including the computer maker itself. All with slightly different physical set-ups. It would be impossible to expect it to work 100%.
That's so true. With Windows 10, everybody is beta testing. It won't be until at least Windows 10.2 when the platform is totally stable and business start using it. Microsoft and 3rd party developers will all be up to speed and on the same page. They'll have to lose the on demand updates but I think that's part of their business profit plan. Instant info on consumer activity is more valuable than stale consumer updates a week old, or more. As long as you don't use Cortana, your private information won't be collected; to a degree.
I was going to log into Cortana and she wanted a lot of personal info up front. I passed.
After all is said and done, Microsoft is in it for the long hall and Windows 10 will end up being totally stable and set the standard, as Microsoft has always done.

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Old 08-10-2015, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I've stayed away from Cortana, so far.

I don't think the search engine (for files) is as easy as it was for 8.1, although I haven't played with it much yet.
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Old 08-10-2015, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I've stayed away from Cortana, so far.

I don't think the search engine (for files) is as easy as it was for 8.1, although I haven't played with it much yet.
I noticed the apparent lack of search options myself.
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Old 08-10-2015, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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For some reason my desktop does not offer to install it. Should I install it only laptop which is a TV machine.
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:01 PM
 
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For some reason my desktop does not offer to install it. Should I install it only laptop which is a TV machine.
If your watching DVDs on your TV through your computer, Windows 10 does not have any DVD player software like Media Center has with windows 7. If you're live streaming, windows 10 works very nice. You can get some playback apps from windows store, though for the DVDs. On your Desktop computer, make sure every update is installed to current and the install icon will appear in your right task bar. It could take 24 hrs for it to appear once you're updated completely. Windows 10 won't prompt your computer for an install until your software is 100% up to date.
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Old 08-11-2015, 01:00 AM
 
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This is an old an honored Microsoft practice from way back in the DOS systems. You never installed any version with an .0 or a .1 after it, and were wary of a .2 Much easier to do a real time, customer supplied test.

My computers stay at 7.
Never be a pioneer. Pioneers are dead guys with arrows in their backs.

( words of wisdom from an ancient Unix guru who knew Jobs )
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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I agree that Microsoft does use its users for beta testing, albeit after extensive beta testing by volunteers. If they didn't, then users would be complaining about Microsoft not listening to the consumer. How many million computers are out there? All with different software from a variety of companies including the computer maker itself. All with slightly different physical set-ups. It would be impossible to expect it to work 100%.
It's not that. It's it not working at all. Or not working enough you can use it, having programs important to you shut out. One version of a dos version actually deleted user files and lost them. One wiped out the hardrive an wouldn't let anything be written on it under certain combinations. There was a very very good reason to run fast away from verision .0 to .2.

And they know the popular programs that are NOT theirs people run and are perfectly capable of testing them beforehand and being sure they work. When we did even the small user system where I worked, we ran all the possible mistakes through it to make sure it didn't mess up files or reports and the results were accurate.

Microsoft is just using the public as a cheap beta test, shame on them.
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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If your watching DVDs on your TV through your computer, Windows 10 does not have any DVD player software like Media Center has with windows 7. If you're live streaming, windows 10 works very nice. You can get some playback apps from windows store, though for the DVDs. On your Desktop computer, make sure every update is installed to current and the install icon will appear in your right task bar. It could take 24 hrs for it to appear once you're updated completely. Windows 10 won't prompt your computer for an install until your software is 100% up to date.
In other words, I couldn't play my cd's on the laptop and run the sound to the speaker system? Total useless failure. I don't want my entire music library installed on my laptop and I didn't set up the speakers with the tv and audio out on the laptop to not work on dvd's. Media center is one of the most used things I do on the computer.
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