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They are not and were not babies. Stop being dramatic. A sperm is not a person, an egg is not a person, and a fertilized egg is not a person. Use your brain, not your indoctrinated emotions.
It is good enough for the indoctrinated to talk about future lions not even concieved when talking about this lion being killed so why is that ok? This whole thread is comprised of dramatics, most by those who can't understand that the lion's death while tragic, isn't the end of the world.
They are not and were not babies. Stop being dramatic. A sperm is not a person, an egg is not a person, and a fertilized egg is not a person. Use your brain, not your indoctrinated emotions.
Some babies aborted are fully intact and whole, your ignorance is in full bloom.
They are not and were not babies. Stop being dramatic. A sperm is not a person, an egg is not a person, and a fertilized egg is not a person. Use your brain, not your indoctrinated emotions.
GIANT face palm
so...when is a fetus officially a person?
When it can live on its own?? \
So sad. The officials now give the remaining cubs a 5% chance of survival.
Palmer did much more than kill one lion - his actions have affected the entire pride. With lion populations now being considered vulnerable, I hope all this negative attention he is receiving is making him re-think his "love" for trophy hunting and see it for the sickness it is, but somehow I doubt it. People who get joy and pleasure out of killing have some important part of their character missing. If his victims were human, we'd call him a dangerous psychopath. Just because his victims are animals does not make his actions less reprehensible.
On a positive note, maybe his loss of business will make future trophy hunting unaffordable in the future.
You do realize that the safari tours (which includes Big Game Hunts) are actually good for conservation efforts, right? The guides and operators monitor, manage, and maintain these huge swaths of land, and this wouldn't be possible without all of the revenue the tours and hunts provide. So one lion (or pride, if you must) gets killed, but how many more are saved and born as a result of these lands being preserved?
"Conservation of both African and Asian lions has required the setup and maintenance of national parks and game reserves;[..] Outside these areas, the issues arising from lions' interaction with livestock and people usually results in the elimination of the lions."
If all those complaining put up money, there would be no need for any hunting activities because conservation efforts would have billions of dollars. But they don't and instead just want to blame others.
Oh look, the President of Zimbabwe no less, says the people of Zimbabwe are responsible for not safeguarding the lion. "Cecil the lion was yours, and you failed to protect him" said that country's President.
Oh look, the President of Zimbabwe no less, says the people of Zimbabwe are responsible for not safeguarding the lion. "Cecil the lion was yours, and you failed to protect him" said that country's President.
You do realize that the safari tours (which includes Big Game Hunts) are actually good for conservation efforts, right? The guides and operators monitor, manage, and maintain these huge swaths of land, and this wouldn't be possible without all of the revenue the tours and hunts provide. So one lion (or pride, if you must) gets killed, but how many more are saved and born as a result of these lands being preserved?
"Conservation of both African and Asian lions has required the setup and maintenance of national parks and game reserves;[..] Outside these areas, the issues arising from lions' interaction with livestock and people usually results in the elimination of the lions."
Nonsense. It is estimated that only about 3% of the fees paid by trophy hunters goes for conservation efforts. Lion numbers have been dwindling steadily. The most ridiculous argument ever - killing endangered/vulnerable animals to "save" them. It's not working.
Nonsense. It is estimated that only about 3% of the fees paid by trophy hunters goes for conservation efforts. Lion numbers have been dwindling steadily. The most ridiculous argument ever - killing endangered/vulnerable animals to "save" them. It's not working.
Thats it, take the money and then blame those who gave for squandering it away. You want to blame the hunters instead if the recipients of the money? What is next, blaming those who donate to cancer research for not finding a cure? your logic is completely flawed.
You want to blame the hunters instead if the recipients of the money?
Yep.
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