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As a member of the co-op, I'm so happy that MY dividend is being used to pay people for not working, AND to suffer from no sales on the day when most people go shopping. Real smart REI.
Of course they don't really have "sales" anyway.
Workers should work! Nose to the grindstone. Make money for the investors. This is the American way. I don't understand this foolishness. The lack of work ethic is destroying the country. If people want to shop we should give them stuff to buy!
I am really hoping this is sarcasm.
Your dividend??? They are not using your dividend to pay their Employees.
Most people??! I really think most people don't go out on crazy Black Friday. Like others I used to go out on Black Friday and the day after Christmas--it has become way too crazy and too commercialized.
I am really impressed that REI is doing this. I am one that loves that I have the day after Thanksgiving off. I can enjoy being with family on Thanksgiving with not taking part of my day worrying that I have to get up early the next day. Glad they can do the same.
And Black Friday is not just a "normal business day".
Correct. It is a day with very high overhead because crowded stores require maximum staffing. It is also a day with many unsatisfied customers due to items sold out, long waits and crowds of people in bad moods, customers and employees both. It is a day when thin margins are cut much thinner with many loss leaders costing the store their normal profits. The stores will report record grosses but never a word about the bottom line.
Black Friday, Cyber Monday, ad nauseam, etc have all gotten well out of hand. Stores around here started putting up Christmas trees in late September.
I stopped participating in the annual Christmas wallet rape a few years ago. When I was a kid, I loved Christmas. As I got older, it just became this horrible guilt mechanism. I was guilted into buying gifts for people I barely know ( in-laws and such ), coerced by my employer into participating in their annual secret Santa and other nonsense, and otherwise made to feel awful if i didnt drop a couple grand each December, whether i could afford it or not. Throw in all the obligatory holiday parties and the " are we going to your parents house or mine?" guilt trip. Good times.
And God forbid if you are alone. You are made to feel as if it's a fate worse than death to be alone on Christmas. It's an equal opportunity misery making holiday.
I'm not doing it anymore. My kids are grown. I buy gifts for my friends and family when I see something they'd like, not when WalMart tells me it's time to.
If someone wishes me a Merry Christmas, I just say " thanks, you too." so I'm not one of those obnoxious people that get butt hurt because people are wishing me a happy day. I just don't care to participate anymore.
That goes triple for black Friday. Not on a freakin bet.
I stopped participating in the annual Christmas wallet rape a few years ago. When I was a kid, I loved Christmas. As I got older, it just became this horrible guilt mechanism. ......
Good for you. The entire shopping debauchery that passes for the holiday season now has only existed, for the most part for only the last 40 years or so. It's not normal, and I'm betting a lot more will figure this out too.
Not sure why this rail against "Black Friday" came from..BUT the day AFTER Thanksgiving has ALWAYS been a work day.... It was NEVER another holiday...
So it is JUST another workday for people.. If you are off you go shopping..If you have to work you work...
We get more and more Stupid on this country everyday....
Actually, it's a work holiday at a lot of large companies.
I worked for both Pillsbury (beginning in the 1990s) and for General Mills after they purchased the Pillsbury in the 2000s). For both companies, before and after the merger, the day after Thanksgiving was (and still is for General Mills) a holiday because Thanksgiving was a holiday, and it didn't make much sense to bring people back for just one day before the weekend. They do the same thing with Christmas Day, New Year's Day, and Independence Day - if any of those holidays in a given year falls on a Tuesday or a Thursday, the corresponding Monday or Friday will also be a paid holiday.
I have no issue with Black Friday - I don't shop on that day, but I have no problem if others do. On the other hand, I also have no problem if some businesses aren't open that day.
Businesses don't simply draw and retain a talented workforce. They do this by offering a sufficiently compelling package for potential and existing employees. And REI? Well, they're doing one damn good job at translating their business practices into business success.
the whole not giving time off for retail workers is a load of bs. Their should be some holidays that people who do non essential jobs should have off. And for the police,fire,medical,whatever should be compensated some how.
the whole not giving time off for retail workers is a load of bs. Their should be some holidays that people who do non essential jobs should have off. And for the police,fire,medical,whatever should be compensated some how.
They do get time off, it's just not the same as 9-5 jobs. It's the negatives that come along with working retail. I worked retail and would work 5 days per week and get 2 off, just like 9-5 jobs but my time off wasn't on Saturday and Sunday.
They do get time off, it's just not the same as 9-5 jobs. It's the negatives that come along with working retail. I worked retail and would work 5 days per week and get 2 off, just like 9-5 jobs but my time off wasn't on Saturday and Sunday.
I worked retail for YEARS. Literally the worst kind of job you can have is a retail job. It's thankless, low paying, you work all holidays & weekends basically. Shudder. I hope I never have to work a retail job again.
The fact that you haven't heard of them is on you. I doubt I know a person that isn't a member. Their stores are always mobbed in any state I've lived.
Ok?? Plenty of people haven't heard of them. They don't have one in my city, and I don't hike or camp so I wouldn't patronize them if they were here. Not a big deal.
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Originally Posted by Sundaydrive00
Who said it was a holiday?
It's a paid holiday for us.
That said, I've never been one for Black Friday madness. It sounds like hell - long lines, pissed off people, and empty shelves.
the whole not giving time off for retail workers is a load of bs. Their should be some holidays that people who do non essential jobs should have off. And for the police,fire,medical,whatever should be compensated some how.
The whole point of retail is that you work when most people are off. Weekends, holidays, evenings, etc.
That said, I agree that they should at least get Christmas and Thanksgiving off.
And I'm sure that emergency personnel receive some type of holiday pay.
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