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Old 11-20-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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Okay. It probably did happened when I was in the 7th grade (in the dark ages), but in the mean time,


95 bottles of beer the wall
95 bottles of beer
if one of those bottles should happen to fall
94 bottles of beer


etc


I still don't think singing a song will scar those kids for life, or make any of them want to blow up anything.


Jeebus, get a grip.
You sound like you're down to bottle #1.


The song won't scar anyone for life or cause them to blow up anything.


This weird teacher apparently wrote the song, and the lyrics go way beyond teaching about Islam to 7th graders. The lyrics advocates for Islam. I already know that for some people separation of church and state doesn't apply to Islam.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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This is a 7th grade class though, not HS and not a debate class.
These are 12 and 13 year old kids. What world knowledge do they have to even being to defend a position ? They don't have enough knowledge yet.
I was 14 at the time. I doubt I was significantly more mature than any of them. That said, the writing assignment in question was administered to high schoolers. It is the song - which, again, I did not defend- that was taught to 7th graders.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I was 14 at the time. I doubt I was significantly more mature than any of them. That said, the writing assignment in question was administered to high schoolers. It is the song - which, again, I did not defend- that was taught to 7th graders.
Ok. And FWIW I do believe in challenging students.
I've done it in school. It really makes them think. But and this is a big but, you also have to make sure they stay within bounds and within the content that they do know.

The geopolitics today of the ME is beyond many adults never mind 7th graders.

I would definitely just stick with culture and not get into the religious politics of Islam.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Originally Posted by Hoot N Annie View Post
Okay. It probably did happened when I was in the 7th grade (in the dark ages), but in the mean time,


95 bottles of beer the wall
95 bottles of beer
if one of those bottles should happen to fall
94 bottles of beer


etc


I still don't think singing a song will scar those kids for life, or make any of them want to blow up anything.


Jeebus, get a grip.
Considerable different from that song and the one in question. Seriously? You do not see the different. And to use your "logic" no one drinks those bottles of beer so the conclusion you mentioned is a mute point.

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Old 11-20-2015, 12:26 PM
 
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Nope I was perfectly right the first time.

I'm only pointing out that some who condone racial and cultural insensitive things in school now disregard freedom of speech and now want thisse things banned.
Who in their right mind wants k-12 public school teachers to have 1st Amendment freedom of speech protection in what they force students to learn.
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Old 11-20-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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There is only one word to describe the people responsible for this...stupid.
1. You figure you would proof it before doing it.
2. After proofing it, you should have the common sense to say no to this song.

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Insane. Why the hell are they even teaching about Islam anyway? What's next, handing out black ninja costumes?
After the ninja uniform they get a Toyota pick-up truck and an AK-47 to complete the terrorist costume.
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:49 PM
 
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You sound like you're down to bottle #1.


The song won't scar anyone for life or cause them to blow up anything.


This weird teacher apparently wrote the song, and the lyrics go way beyond teaching about Islam to 7th graders. The lyrics advocates for Islam. I already know that for some people separation of church and state doesn't apply to Islam.


Well then, do not ever listen to any of the rap "music" most kids sing along with. Given your sensitivities, your head will explode. Islam is pale in comparison.
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:58 PM
 
Location: MA
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Unless it was a class on different religions? I had a class in college where we learned about many different relgions including Muslim, Christian etc. It was a great class.
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Old 11-20-2015, 04:49 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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The teacher and the assistant principal both need to be gone; gone from their jobs and sent to an islamic country to live out the rest of their sick lives. I'd rather my child learn about child porn than islam.
Damn, I LOVE THIS POST!

Wish I could rep you more!
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Old 11-20-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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Teachers do stupid things sometimes. Low quality teaching is a consequence of constant budget cuts.
B.S. Budget cuts don't change the overwhelming liberalism of academia.
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