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Old 11-24-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Originally Posted by stan4 View Post
You mean like these?

Not even that old...
Ranges - Cooking - The Home Depot

Plenty on the first page alone that have easy access to controls.
Point conceded.
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Old 11-24-2015, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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"every human being"

Do you know what the definition of racist is? Seems like you don't. Impractical, maybe, but racist, no.

Yet again, we have the word "racist" being tossed around uselessly like a ball.
Here's the racist-sounding part (not saying it's intentional) from the post I was referring to: "Once a person/couple proves they are fit to be a parent and financially capable, only then would they be allowed to have children."

Not that I want to spend too much time on this hypothetical side issue, but that's clearly a disproportionate impact on minorities.

The definition of "racist" is broader than you think it is.
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Old 11-24-2015, 03:43 PM
 
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Here's the racist-sounding part (not saying it's intentional) from the post I was referring to: "Once a person/couple proves they are fit to be a parent and financially capable, only then would they be allowed to have children."

Not that I want to spend too much time on this hypothetical side issue, but that's clearly a disproportionate impact on minorities.

The definition of "racist" is broader than you think it is.
Only if you see it that way. I don't.

The definition of "racist" is not broader than I think it is. It is as follows: "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race; racial prejudice or discrimination" Racism | Definition of racism by Merriam-Webster
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Old 11-24-2015, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Have you ever met a stove? The controls are out of reach for a 36-inch 3 year old. They would have had to climb on something.
Not on my oven.
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Planet Woof
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This is evil in human form. How do 3 year olds get this sick this quickly?
I cannot read this whole thread, only comment.
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Old 11-25-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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Here's the racist-sounding part (not saying it's intentional) from the post I was referring to: "Once a person/couple proves they are fit to be a parent and financially capable, only then would they be allowed to have children."

Not that I want to spend too much time on this hypothetical side issue, but that's clearly a disproportionate impact on minorities.

The definition of "racist" is broader than you think it is.

Racism is determined by intent, not impact. A policy can be correct, moral, just and right even if it happens to have heavy impact on a particular population.

So, for example, if we see that prisons contain an inordinate amount of people who are low income, that does not make it wrong to keep incarcerating lots of low income people who have committed crimes. The income composition of prisons is IRRELEVANT, because the people there have committed crimes and need to be there.

The commission of crimes is the ONLY thing we need to know about prison populations. Is person 3233444A-99 incarcerated correctly? Did he or she commit a crime? Check? Good. Then the prison system is doing a good job, even if 100% of the inmates are low income.
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Old 11-25-2015, 12:19 PM
 
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When I was two or three I ran away from my mother at Lord & Taylor's in Eastchester. I was able to push the panic button to stop the escalator; as a prank. I am told I had a big grin across my face.
Ugh..... My youngest son was a button pusher. Anything that had a button he thought it was meant to be pushed.


I notice most of these articles are only calling these 3 yr olds "children" and avoiding brothers. Plus, not saying much about the 5 yr old. I read one article, the "children" were in a corner of the room when parents arrived screaming, that the stove tipped over, not because their sister was inside.
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Old 11-25-2015, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Man this is so sickening to even read.
Poor baby. Can't imagine how horrible he felt at the last moments.
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Old 11-26-2015, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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This is evil in human form. How do 3 year olds get this sick this quickly?
I cannot read this whole thread, only comment.
As I said earlier, maybe it is not sickness because maybe they don't understand the process, of when discomfort changes to pain and destruction.

For example, as a child of the 60's, I, we, were raised on people being tortured, but it was always about pain and discomfort and not about the real permanent damage. People staked out in the sun, we saw them get hot and sweaty, that's the discomfort we knew and that is, probably, what fed our "fiendish" desires.

What we didn't see was heat stroke, didn't "feel" the heat cramps, didn't see the brain destroyed for the victim, our heroes were always the same the next day or week. Or, say, if they had been flogged. We thought we knew what it was like because we had been spanked/whipped. We knew that quick pain, but like our heroes in TV/movies, we were fine the next day.

When we are unknowing of what actually happens to the body, we might conceive of actions that are actually quite harmful.
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Old 11-26-2015, 02:09 AM
 
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Mother, boyfriend charged in death of toddler burned in oven

Mother, boyfriend charged in death of toddler burned in oven
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