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Old 12-18-2015, 12:35 AM
 
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It's obviously a bad shoot.

Cop needs to serve some jail time after he's fired.
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Old 12-18-2015, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I also want to say dont run from the cops you wont get shot!
or walk from the cops

or walk at the cops

or...
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Old 12-18-2015, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Monnem Germany/ from San Diego
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or walk from the cops

or walk at the cops

or...
be anywhere near a cop?
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Old 12-18-2015, 08:01 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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I can understand not prosecuting him for manslaughter. You would not win that case when it can be proven that the weapon was accidentally discharged. You cannot get him for false report either because he did not actually technically make a false report. There may or may not be a relevant weapons discharge crime; that varies a lot by jurisdiction and it would just be a misdemeanor.

But you can definitely charge him with obstruction of justice and would almost certainly win that case. Which then makes it possible to at least fire him and maybe strip his license.

(Felony level negligent discharge requires intent to fire the weapon, so you could not make that charge stick.)

I would question the accidental discharge too. Police handguns are double-action with a heavy trigger pull specifically to avoid accidental discharge (since they also do not have safeties). That is part of the reason their firearm accuracy is so awful.
Was he using a personal firearm that was not inside department regulations for trigger pull?

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Old 12-18-2015, 08:30 AM
 
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Cop was scared, as usual. At least he got to go home safely. He will probably get a paid vacation and his other associated gang members will probably conclude that he did nothing wrong.
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Old 12-18-2015, 08:34 AM
 
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Outrage in NorCal Town After Officer Shoots Unarmed DUI Suspect | NBC New York

- Perp pulls out of a bar parking lot, apparently drunk driving, cop initiates pursuit
- Car flipped, killing perp's wife
- As perp climbs out of the wreckage, cop comes up and shoots him in the neck and he fell back inside the car
- Cop reports "I've got a male in the car refusing to get out"
- Ambulance came, treated the perp and found the bullet hole, cop says nothing about shooting
- When cop was told to go back to the bar to investigate how perp was shot he admitted to his CO that he "may have" shot the guy, 11 minutes after the incident
- Perp is paralyzed, charge with manslaughter and DUI
- Cop is not prosecuted because it was an "accidental discharge"

Anyone see anything wrong with this?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRh3g1ekakw
That was attempted murder and it didn't look like his first rodeo, did it?
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Old 12-18-2015, 08:40 AM
 
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Outrage in NorCal Town After Officer Shoots Unarmed DUI Suspect | NBC New York

- Perp pulls out of a bar parking lot, apparently drunk driving, cop initiates pursuit
- Car flipped, killing perp's wife
- As perp climbs out of the wreckage, cop comes up and shoots him in the neck and he fell back inside the car
- Cop reports "I've got a male in the car refusing to get out"
- Ambulance came, treated the perp and found the bullet hole, cop says nothing about shooting
- When cop was told to go back to the bar to investigate how perp was shot he admitted to his CO that he "may have" shot the guy, 11 minutes after the incident
- Perp is paralyzed, charge with manslaughter and DUI
- Cop is not prosecuted because it was an "accidental discharge"

Anyone see anything wrong with this?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRh3g1ekakw
Yes, what's wrong is when idiots go head to head. The first idiot drinks and drives, killing his wife. Then the second idiot "accidentally discharged" his gun and paralyze the first idiot. To me, these two deserved each other.
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:18 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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That was attempted murder, plain and simple.
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:37 AM
 
Location: zooland 1
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I guess people dont want to hear or realize the exhaustive investigation)s) that went into this accidental shooting... I personally know Mike Ramsey ..the district attorney.. as well as the several D.A investigators that were assigned this case.

There was no cover up...
Supervisors were immediately called
A D.A. roll out shoot team was immediately assigned
Butte County Sheriffs rolled out an investigative team
Paradise PD did their own supervisory investigation


The D.A determined through three investigations ,,two independent that the shooting was accidental

Doesnt mean the officer wont get fired.. doesnt mean the officer and the department arent on the hook


You wont hear that in the news
The "local" outrage that the national news is trying to stir up isnt so "outrageous" in the local community,,, but there are calls for action on the officer.. which is still pending..


Keep your finger out of the the trigger guard,,, no excuse here,, I didnt see a threat in the video... however I wasn't chasing the guy.. nor did I witness the accident.. nor are any of us prvy to the investigation until its released in entirety


Another opening//

Step up internet heros

The scrota that killed his wife can use some of his potential new found money to defend himself... I would say he really gets to live with the consequences of his actions forever


Keep your public actions unsullied and the world wont rain down bad stuff on you.. intended or accidental

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Old 12-18-2015, 10:10 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I guess people dont want to hear or realize the exhaustive investigation)s) that went into this accidental shooting... I personally know Mike Ramsey ..the district attorney.. as well as the several D.A investigators that were assigned this case.

There was no cover up...
Supervisors were immediately called
A D.A. roll out shoot team was immediately assigned
Butte County Sheriffs rolled out an investigative team
Paradise PD did their own supervisory investigation

The D.A determined through three investigations ,,two independent that the shooting was accidental

Doesnt mean the officer wont get fired.. doesnt mean the officer and the department arent on the hook

Keep your finger out of the the trigger guard,,, no excuse here,, I didnt see a threat in the video... however I wasn't chasing the guy.. nor did I witness the accident.. nor are any of us prvy to the investigation until its released in entirety
If the shooting was truly "accidental", then what does it matter what happened during the chase?

If you watched the video then you just "witnessed" the accident, unless you're saying "believe me and not your lying eyes".

If it were an accident and no attempt to cover up, explain why the officer didn't radio it in right away but instead he said "I've got a male in the car refusing to get out"? Now why do you think he radioed that particular message in and not "I've got a wounded male in the car requiring medical assistance" or something to that nature?

Why do you think he waited 10-12 minutes (depending on the news source) before alerting the responder and his CO that he shot the guy?

Btw, questioning the officer's actions doesn't mean there is sympathy for the perp. They don't have to go hand in hand. The perp deserves to pay for his crimes.
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