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Old 02-22-2016, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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^ good point, they should be in 2nd/3rd.

My question is - do elementary schools no longer employ bus monitors? We have issues of rowdy/disruptive kids on our bus - the driver has to assign seats so the trouble kids are away from others - but this doesn't prevent them from climbing UNDER the seats so he can't see. He already has to worry about driving safety - this is just another thing they have to concern themselves with and it just isn't very safe. We need bus monitors badly. They put one on the bus for a month, but the problem has come back.
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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Fortunately those kids didn't do something serious like chew a pop tart into the shape of a gun.
Yeah, their little butts would have been in serious, immediate trouble if they'd done that.
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Old 02-22-2016, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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So there is no video camera on the bus? If not we are dealing with an accusation and not a proven incident. However I will say that if these two kids did this to another boy they need to look at the homes they come from. Eight year olds should know nothing about sexual behavior or assault. Where on earth would they have learned that behavior. It makes you wonder what they may have been exposed too. I am sure social workers are looking into this.
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Old 02-22-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Interesting case.

Charges can't be pressed under 10? Is that true? No legal recourse? No legal recourse against the parents? Did the mother take him to a hospital for an exam?

Some school systems can't afford bus monitors or cameras. Districts often get such after an incident...too late then.
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Old 02-22-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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Interesting case.

Charges can't be pressed under 10? Is that true? No legal recourse? No legal recourse against the parents? Did the mother take him to a hospital for an exam?
I think there would be legal recourse against the school since this happened while the student was in care of a school employee (Bus Driver).
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:07 PM
 
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I went to public schools (in suburban St. Louis, MO) and rode the bus from 1960 - 1971 and that NEVER happened nor did any other students mention it happening on their buses.
It was so bad that you've totally blocked it out of your memory . . . . very sorry.

Mick
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:11 PM
 
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It was so bad that you've totally blocked it out of your memory . . . . very sorry.

Mick
Are you implying that 8 yr old boys regularly perform sexual acts on each other on school buses?
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:37 PM
 
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There is a solution to this type of behavior occurring on school buses. (stay with me here) Since, schools are expected to be "entertainment' in today's society, and since the school bus code has not been updated to stay with the automotive and other vehicles on the road (seat belts / safety restraint). I have an easy solution to prevent this type of activity ever happening on a traveling bus.


Redesign school bus seating like an amusement park ride with overhead bars like a roller coaster which come down over the children's heads and keeps them secure in place. Strapped in like a space shuttle launch. Require buses to have some under employed / unemployed in the community (well vetted) ride along in back of bus in a flight attendant like fold down seat to be monitor. The bus makers would like it - time for retrofitting - creating jobs. Also public transportation has cameras why not school buses?


As for the story, a couple things mentioned that bear repeating seem odd (beside the behavior). Eight year olds in first grade - are these children developmentally disabled? What kind of family life (if any) are these 8 year olds exposed to that they thought this was acceptable behavior? Perhaps they should take a page from the infamous Twinkie defense and say they watched the movie Deliverance while the TV was baby sitting them?


I'm surmising the two eight year old offenders who assaulted the other child may need to be removed from their current guardian care. Very troubling - hope the victim will recover from the experience.
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:54 PM
 
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Wonder what would had happened it it were non-white kids we were talking about "REFUGEE RAPE WAVE HITS TEXAS"
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Old 02-22-2016, 07:26 PM
 
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I think a lot of things I see on TV, ie Family guy which is PG-13/mainstream...desensitizes us to 1)violence, the most 2) vulgarity sexuality. A lto of even liberal university research shows this is the case.

I wonder, and I am an objectie person, if the frequency of homosexality would be lower if we didn't allow such norms. Just out of curiosity, not rights denial or anyhting.
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