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Old 06-19-2017, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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California isn’t the only location where this is being done. The problem for me is that why should the wealthy have the option to have this benefit, yet if you’re poor you go to the nasty other jails with inmates that you might not want to know or live with while you serve your time. Is this fare? Shouldn’t “all” criminals be treated the “same” ? Everyone in prison should be treated humanely.

Soft Cell: California Inmates Can Pay for Cushier Accommodations - NBC News
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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That's been the case for a while already. Be working class and steal $10,000 = "hard" time. Affluent and steal $10,000,000 = relax at "Club Fed". Kind of like poor people who steal something are thieves who need jail, and rich people who steal are "kleptomaniacs" who need treatment.
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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That's been the case for a while already. Be working class and steal $10,000 = "hard" time. Affluent and steal $10,000,000 = relax at "Club Fed". Kind of like poor people who steal something are thieves who need jail, and rich people who steal are "kleptomaniacs" who need treatment.
Or, very deliberately ignore safety standards in your mine, resulting in an explosion that kills 29 workers? One year in prison.

Former Massey Energy CEO Sentenced To 1 Year In Prison Over Upper Big Branch Mine Explosion

As long as you're a businessperson who is only incidentally killing people as part of an intent to make gobs and gobs of money, you get a slap on the wrist. But swipe three six-packs on three different occasions and it's "Three strikes and you're out!" and it's life in prison. Of course, that's because those six-packs belong to an entrepreneur trying to make money, and the criminal justice system cares infinitely more about safeguarding the profits of entrepreneurs than it does about safeguarding the lives of workers.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:12 AM
 
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Or, very deliberately ignore safety standards in your mine, resulting in an explosion that kills 29 workers? One year in prison.

Former Massey Energy CEO Sentenced To 1 Year In Prison Over Upper Big Branch Mine Explosion

As long as you're a businessperson who is only incidentally killing people as part of an intent to make gobs and gobs of money, you get a slap on the wrist. But swipe three six-packs on three different occasions and it's "Three strikes and you're out!" and it's life in prison. Of course, that's because those six-packs belong to an entrepreneur trying to make money, and the criminal justice system cares infinitely more about safeguarding the profits of entrepreneurs than it does about safeguarding the lives of workers.
Yes, or you can drunkenly kill a bunch of people and blame "affluenza".
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Old 06-19-2017, 12:09 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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California isn’t the only location where this is being done. The problem for me is that why should the wealthy have the option to have this benefit, yet if you’re poor you go to the nasty other jails with inmates that you might not want to know or live with while you serve your time. Is this fare? Shouldn’t “all” criminals be treated the “same” ? Everyone in prison should be treated humanely.

Soft Cell: California Inmates Can Pay for Cushier Accommodations - NBC News
That's grotesque.
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Old 06-19-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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California isn’t the only location where this is being done. The problem for me is that why should the wealthy have the option to have this benefit, yet if you’re poor you go to the nasty other jails with inmates that you might not want to know or live with while you serve your time. Is this fare? Shouldn’t “all” criminals be treated the “same” ? Everyone in prison should be treated humanely.

Soft Cell: California Inmates Can Pay for Cushier Accommodations - NBC News
Everyone in prison is treated humanely. The lawyers and the ACLU make sure of that. The more upscale inmates pay for different accommodation with their own money, which will lessen the tax burden for tax payers. The money they spend stimulates local economy. This is really a win-win for everyone.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:16 PM
 
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How about charging the wealthy criminals and the money would go directly towards upgrading the standards for all inmates in jail instead of just those few special ones?
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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The problem for me is that why should the wealthy have the option to have this benefit, yet if you’re poor you go to the nasty other jails with inmates that you might not want to know or live with while you serve your time. Is this fare?
Sounds good to me.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:35 PM
 
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How about charging the wealthy criminals and the money would go directly towards upgrading the standards for all inmates in jail instead of just those few special ones?
How about not worrying about what happens to wealthy criminals?
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Long Neck , DE
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We should all be treated the same. I think fair and right is somewhere in the middle of the actual extremes
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