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Old 03-16-2018, 12:49 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Hmmm...

Engineering company behind collapsed FIU bridge also designed Zakim
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Old 03-16-2018, 01:19 AM
 
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Heartbreaking
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Old 03-16-2018, 01:37 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Is this China? Doesn't look like it. How can something like this happen when it is new.
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Old 03-16-2018, 01:39 AM
 
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The local news stations always need to find a way to connect national tragedies to the local population. That firm designed many bridges across the US. They designed one of the bridges in St. Louis as well, so of course that was all over the local news. The bridge is 24 years old, I thought it was a bit of a stretch to try and link the two bridges.

ksdk.com | Clark Bridge designed by same firm used for FIU pedestrian bridge
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Florida
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And perhaps they should have left those red metal moving carriages as supports underneath the bridge until it was finished and routed the traffic around them until the cables were installed.

I thought that, too. You could have left a couple in the middle, just blocking one lane in each direction. It would have only been a slight annoyance to drivers.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Looking at the debris it appears as though the construction was incomplete and the cable stays had yet to be installed.

Here is what it would have looked like when complete. Notice the cables: FIU students in Sweetwater will get bridge across dangerous road | Miami Herald
OMG, so basically they put a bridge over an active roadway, that had no support. Who would think that would be an OK idea? Were they just hoping that it would stay up there by itself until they could get the cables on it?

The people responsible for this plan should be charged with manslaughter.

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Old 03-16-2018, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Florida
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For that kind of money they could have built a tunnel under the road complete with escalators. Of course, being Florida digging such a tunnel would likely cause sinkholes.
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Old 03-16-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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For that kind of money they could have built a tunnel under the road complete with escalators. Of course, being Florida digging such a tunnel would likely cause sinkholes.
I don't think a tunnel would have worked. If you look at the pictures you will see that in addition to the highway the bridge was going to span a waterway. A tunnel would have had to be pretty deep to go underneath the canal. Plus a tunnel in that area would probably just fill up with water.

That said, for that kind of money, they should have been able to come up with something better.
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Old 03-16-2018, 08:34 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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We have a number of footbridges in Boston over Storrow Drive. None of them are as wide or as clunky-looking. And in a hurricane and at the right wind angle, IMO the FIU bridge would have had issues with lift.

I wonder if they made models of this design and put any of them in a wind tunnel for testing.
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Old 03-16-2018, 09:39 AM
 
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The NTSB will conduct a thorough investigation with actual experts and we'll know what went wrong in a couple months.

Speculation is fine but wow, we have the armchair experts already stating as fact what happened and who is at fault?
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