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I certainly don't think he should get a trophy but I completely agree, women do this with regularity. Order the most expensive meal on the menu, appetizers, dessert, etc., and although they don't walk out before they check, they don't pay for it and when asked to split it they don't have their wallet, and then they're gone.
That's why first dates with people you don't know should be at a coffee shop.
Maybe I'm just old school (And no, I'm not old... Early 30s) ... But if I ask a woman out on a date, I expect to pay the bill. It's just a gentlemanly thing to do. If I can't afford it (which does happen from time to time) I just don't ask for a date. Simple as that.
If the woman insists in paying her portion of the bill, fine. But I don't expect that of her.
I certainly don't think he should get a trophy but I completely agree, women do this with regularity. Order the most expensive meal on the menu, appetizers, dessert, etc., and although they don't walk out before they check, they don't pay for it and when asked to split it they don't have their wallet, and then they're gone.
That's why first dates with people you don't know should be at a coffee shop.
I would consider doing more research with the next lady you go out with.
I certainly don't think he should get a trophy but I completely agree, women do this with regularity. Order the most expensive meal on the menu, appetizers, dessert, etc., and although they don't walk out before they check, they don't pay for it and when asked to split it they don't have their wallet, and then they're gone.
That's why first dates with people you don't know should be at a coffee shop.
How did you come to the conclusion that this is done with regularity? I'm getting long in the tooth so in my dating days it was by default that if a man asked you out he would be paying for the date. Its just the way it was. Never did I order the most expensive meal. On the contrary I was very consciousnesses of the price and tried to order the least expensive meal, no dessert, etc.
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Maybe I'm just old school (And no, I'm not old... Early 30s) ... But if I ask a woman out on a date, I expect to pay the bill. It's just a gentlemanly thing to do. If I can't afford it (which does happen from time to time) I just don't ask for a date. Simple as that.
If the woman insists in paying her portion of the bill, fine. But I don't expect that of her.
I agree with some of that - on the other hand, ordering the most expensive stuff and appetizers and a dessert, if she truly doesn't plan to offer to help pay OR isn't interested in the guy for a relationship (which doesn't mean sex after the date, if means another date) I think she's doing the exact same thing the dine and dasher is doing.
Women do this all the time to guys. I say he gets off free and with a trophy for turning the tables on women who do this crap. And a lot of women do.
But he's the one who volunteered to take them all to dinner. Nobody held a gun to his head. This is what guys don't get. Nobody forces you to make a dinner date. It's not recommended, until you know someone well enough that you'd care enough about them to issue such an invitation. And even then, depending on the nature of the dateship or relationship, if it's by mutual decision ("Hey, you want to go out to dinner tonight?), it could easily be a go-Dutch kind of a thing.
Maybe I'm just old school (And no, I'm not old... Early 30s) ... But if I ask a woman out on a date, I expect to pay the bill. It's just a gentlemanly thing to do. If I can't afford it (which does happen from time to time) I just don't ask for a date. Simple as that.
If the woman insists in paying her portion of the bill, fine. But I don't expect that of her.
You do realize, though, don't you, that there are other types of date activity, besides dinner? Why would you forego a date with someone you're interested in, just because you can't afford a dinner date?
[quote=ClaraC;54053098]I certainly don't think he should get a trophy but I completely agree, women do this with regularity. Order the most expensive meal on the menu, appetizers, dessert, etc., and although they don't walk out before they check, they don't pay for it and when asked to split it they don't have their wallet, and then they're gone.
That's why first dates with people you don't know should be at a coffee shop.[/quote]
I know a guy that does this, but someone the girl managed to wring up $50 at a coffee shop. must have been cafe intermezzo or somewhere like that.
I certainly don't think he should get a trophy but I completely agree, women do this with regularity. Order the most expensive meal on the menu, appetizers, dessert, etc., and although they don't walk out before they check, they don't pay for it and when asked to split it they don't have their wallet, and then they're gone.
That's why first dates with people you don't know should be at a coffee shop.[
I know a guy that does this, but someone the girl managed to wring up $50 at a coffee shop. must have been cafe intermezzo or somewhere like that.
haha, that's a funny typo/spell-o. But that's bad--downright weird--that a first date would do that, unless he suggested they have fund exploring the pastry offerings, or something like that. Though at $50, that would be a lot of pastries, lol. Even if half the order were his, it's a lot of items.
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You do realize, though, don't you, that there are other types of date activity, besides dinner? Why would you forego a date with someone you're interested in, just because you can't afford a dinner date?
I agree. Besides, it's reasonable to think his date will get a mid or low priced entree and a glass of wine. Not 100 bucks worth of food.
When someone else is paying, I get a cheapish entree (not the cheapest, the second or third cheapest) and house white wine.
I think a man can expect that of a woman, on the first date. If not, maybe chalk that up to experience and don't invite her out again.
You do realize, though, don't you, that there are other types of date activity, besides dinner? Why would you forego a date with someone you're interested in, just because you can't afford a dinner date?
I should have specified "dinner date." I figured most would assume that's what I meant considering the discussion at hand. But yeah, dinner date.
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